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9th TF ‐ Storage Meeting in Athens Open discussion on IaaS and clouds

9th TF ‐ Storage (& cloud) Meeting in Athens • „TF ‐ Storage goes to clouds”: TF ‐ Storage meeting @TNC conclusions: – „Participants expressed the need for NRENs to think seriously about P ti i t d th d f NREN t thi k i l b t cloud infrastructure and services.” – „Only a large ‐ scale, pan ‐ European Cloud initiative can provide the economic benefits and technical advantages demanded by the economic benefits and technical advantages demanded by the global research and education user community” More: http://www.terena.org/news/ fullstory php?news id=2903 fullstory.php?news_id=2903

9th TF ‐ Storage (& cloud) Meeting in Athens • „TF ‐ Storage goes to clouds” items to discuss: – Is the European ‐ level inititative for establishing the cloud services necessary in your opinion? – Peter’s questions from the green paper: (NRENs’ Strategic Perspective on Storage and Cloud: Build or buy) http://www.terena.org/activities/tf ‐ storage/Storage ‐ and ‐ cloud ‐ v5.pdf – „ Is there any chance to build a large scale cloud infrastructure jointly by NRENs for the benefit of the European R&E community?” – „ Is there any chance to establish a demand aggregation function towards commercial cloud infrastructure providers jointly by NRENs for the benefit of the European R&E community?” it ?” – What can we (TF ‐ Storage) do at the moment?

9th TF ‐ Storage (& cloud) Meeting in Athens • „TF ‐ Storage goes to clouds” items to discuss: – Is the European ‐ level inititative for establishing the cloud services necessary in your opinion? th l d i i i i ? – Further questions from Peter’s green paper: (NRENs’ Strategic Perspective on Storage and Cloud: Build or buy ) http://www terena org/activities/tf storage/Storage and cloud v5 pdf http://www.terena.org/activities/tf ‐ storage/Storage ‐ and ‐ cloud ‐ v5.pdf „ Is there any chance to build a large scale cloud – infrastructure jointly by NRENs for the benefit of the European R&E community? European R&E community?” „ Is there any chance to establish a demand aggregation – function towards commercial cloud infrastructure providers jointly by NRENs for the benefit of the European R&E j y y f f f p community?” Build or buy question still open: – – GRNET, NIIF, CESNET, PSNC, NORDUnet – to"build" GRNET, NIIF, CESNET, PSNC, NORDUnet to build – SURFnet, UNINETT, SWITCH – to buy – Others?

9th TF ‐ Storage (& cloud) Meeting in Athens • „TF ‐ Storage goes to clouds”: Why on European level? Why on European ‐ level? • Scale large enough • Elasticity • Flexibility • Redundancy • Resilliency • Resilliency • Optimisation • Sustainability

9th TF ‐ Storage (& cloud) Meeting in Athens • „TF ‐ Storage goes to clouds”: • Why to make it on a European level? – A lot of service providers and cloud nodes are needed: • High redundancy and physical distribution of elements and data: – Resilliency – see massive disasters Resilliency see massive disasters – Data safety – replication – Elasticity : » Ability to accomodate huge peak loads » No need for overprovisioning of the resources locally (on the national level) » No need for overprovisioning of the resources locally (on the national level) • Multiple countries involved – The whole ‘business’ resistant to local political/economical issues – Data distribution/storage and access optimisation possible: • E.g. data (centers) located depending on personnel vs energy costs comparison • Data access effective due to existence of multiple copies (mirrors) of the data objects; caching possible

9th TF ‐ Storage (& cloud) Meeting in Athens • Example european scale benefits – energy & cooling: p p gy g by Green Grid 2009 (from CSC’s presentation @TNC)

9th TF ‐ Storage (& cloud) Meeting in Athens • „TF ‐ Storage goes to clouds”: Why ‘involve’ NRENs? – NRENs=Network : • Performance Performance • Easy access – NRENs – trusted: • Users trust NRENs! Why should’nt they store data in NRENs clouds? – NRENs experience in building services NREN i i b ildi i • see e.g. Eduroam • ... and tailoring them to client needs – ‘ Elasticity ’ in terms of: • Openess to implement the requested features • Some means of pressure in hands of users • Elasticity cost model we can implement (pay as you go approaches not suitable) p y y g pp – Costs : • We can be cheaper... (BTW have we to be?) – ‘economy of scale’ – we’re non ‐ profit p – other factors – examples later on – Sustanaibility, no surprises

9th TF ‐ Storage (& cloud) Meeting in Athens • „TF ‐ Storage goes to clouds”: Why ‘involve’ NRENs? NRENs benefits and possible roles: NRENs benefits and possible roles: • Truisms: – Users stay with NRENs ‐ > don t go somewhere else Users stay with NRENs > don’t go somewhere else – Network gets used ;) • Further truisms: Further truisms: – NRENs can be both providers and users of Clouds: • Private clouds as the NRENs service’s backends: – E.g. Filesender, Video ‐ stream archival/storage/serving E g Filesender Video stream archival/storage/serving – NRENs can better manage the resources thanks to Clouds • NRENs cloud services for the others: – Providing public or private clouds for the users – Brokering the own and 3 ‐ rd party clouds services

9th TF ‐ Storage (& cloud) Meeting in Athens • „TF ‐ Storage goes to clouds”: • How to make the European (or even national) cloud the reality: p y – Let’s go on (on the technical level): • Explore Cloud technology on the paper and in practice: – Paper work within TF ‐ Storage? » volunteers to contribute to the cloud technology compendium? – Piloting the technologies within TF ‐ Storage? » Anyone interested? » Anyone interested? • Develop the new technology if we find this needed... – Possibly apply for R&D projects to EU... – Let’s also act on the higher level: • Work on high level architectural design issues: – outsourcing of services in general, outsourcing of services in general – security and privacy issues, – maybe standardisation / best practices, etc.

9th TF ‐ Storage (& cloud) Meeting in Athens • „TF ‐ Storage goes to clouds : what can we do now? TF Storage goes to clouds”: what can we do now? • – Some practical things to do (1): – Some practical things to do (1): – 1st step: Collect our knowledge on cloud ( storage ) solutions: – E.g. do a comparison of what we have in NRENs: – Agree on the set of the attributes of the national deployments of cloud storage systems , such as: p y g y – Total capacity, – Replication, encryption etc. – Client Data access model and interface / APIs: Client Data access model and interface / APIs: e.g. Block ‐ vs file ‐ vs object ‐ level – Storage backend: DAS, NAS, CAS, Storage Cloud: IaaS? SaaS? – Put the table into the TF ‐ storage wiki Put the table into the TF storage wiki – Then try to fill in this table – all interested NRENs – Any volunteers to coordinate this (or at least participate)

9th TF ‐ Storage (& cloud) Meeting in Athens • „TF ‐ Storage goes to clouds”: what can we do now? TF Storage goes to clouds”: what can we do now? • – Some practical things to do (2): Some practical things to do (2): – 2nd step: do some piloting / test deployment of cloud storage middleware/solutions together middleware/solutions together e.g. some NRENS to replicate national solutions – and build an international cloud storage pilot – Implementation: – What middleware looks most promising? – What applications seem to be most interesting for piloting? What applications seem to be most interesting for piloting? – Are there any volunteers to do pilot together?

9th TF ‐ Storage (& cloud) Meeting in Athens • „TF ‐ Storage goes to clouds”: what can we do now? TF S l d ” h d ? – High ‐ level things todo: High level things todo: – Work on high level architectural design issues: outsourcing of services in general, – – security and privacy issues, – maybe standardisation / best practices etc maybe standardisation / best practices, etc. – Act on the political level – Do lobbying of the idea high enought and as broadly as possible Do lobbying of the idea high enought and as broadly as possible – Gather a critical mass of service providers (NRENs, commercials) – Assure the support at the EC level – Assure the support at the EC level (and funding needed for R&D and or piloting if needed)