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Subjectivity of claims numbers 12 November 2015 Presented by: Joe Aldous Director STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL Page 2 STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL Overview 1 The role of forensic accountants 2 Examples of things going well (and not so well) 3


  1. Subjectivity of claims numbers 12 November 2015 Presented by: Joe Aldous – Director STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

  2. Page 2 STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

  3. Overview 1 The role of forensic accountants 2 Examples of things going well (and not so well) 3 Ways to help things go well Page 3 STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

  4. 1 The role of forensic accountants Page 4 STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

  5. Where we fit in the process Lawyer 4 3 2 Co-insurer Co-Insurer Insurer 10 6 5 8 Industry Quantity Engineer Reclamation Expert surveyor 11 7 9 Forensic Forensic Loss Adjuster Accountant Scientist Page 5 STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

  6. Forensic Accountants – common misconceptions  Acting on behalf of Insurers to reduce the numbers  “ Us ” verses “Them” approach  Out to find mistakes  Over complicate matters / delay the process  Excessive and unnecessary document requests Page 6 STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

  7. Forensic Accountants – the reality Facilitate the loss adjustment process  Working with the Insured to get to the right number  Able to simplify complex loss scenarios to Insurers Recognise the commercial considerations  Commercial relationship between Insured & Insurer  Preparation of loss scenarios to assist Insurers in negotiations  Assist the Insurer’s recovery from Co - and Re-Insurers Page 7 STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

  8. The challenge Page 8 STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

  9. Quantum -v- Advocacy Page 9 STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

  10. Quantum -v- Advocacy Civil Procedure Rules - Part 35 35.3: Experts – overriding duty to the court (1) It is the duty of experts to help the court on matters within their expertise. (2) This duty overrides any obligation to the person from whom experts have received instructions or by whom they are paid. Page 10 STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

  11. Quantum Page 11 STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

  12. 2 Examples Page 12 STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

  13. Aluminium smelter Page 13 STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

  14. We didn’t agree on everything Page 14 STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

  15. Rubber o-ring manufacturer Page 15 STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

  16. Issue: Cause & Effect SALES 750,000 700,000 650,000 600,000 550,000 500,000 450,000 400,000 Date of incident 350,000 300,000 Apr-01 May-01 Jun-01 Jul-01 Aug-01 Sep-01 Oct-01 Nov-01 Dec-01 Jan-02 Feb-02 Mar-02 Apr-02 May-02 Jun-02 Jul-02 Aug-02 Sep-02 Oct-02 Nov-02 Dec-02 Jan-03 Feb-03 Mar-03 Apr-03 May-03 Actual sales Budget sales Page 16 STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

  17. Cement manufacturer Page 17 STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

  18. Issue: Clinker Page 18 STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

  19. Issue: Clinker STOCK OF CLINKER CLINKER PRODUCTION CEMENT PRODUCTION Daily Operational Capacity Daily Operational Capacity = 8,000 Tonnes = 12,000 Tonnes Spare cement capacity per day = 4,000 Tonnes Page 19 STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

  20. CCGT power station Page 20 STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

  21. Issue: Flow of information Page 21 STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

  22. 3 Helping things to go well Page 22 STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

  23. Document request lists  Concise  Relevant  Prioritised  Explain why each item is needed  Work with information prepared in normal course of business wherever possible Page 23 STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

  24. Understand the Insured’s business Page 24 STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

  25. Joint models  Agree joint model to use (logic, accuracy, arithmetic etc)  Debate the underlying assumptions  Agree the value of differences in opinion/assumptions Page 25 STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

  26. Narrow areas of disagreement  Fact -v- opinion  Fact – agree what information is required to conclude the issue  Opinion – try and agree the value of differences Page 26 STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

  27. Good communication Page 27 STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

  28. Avoid surprises Page 28 STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

  29. Page 29 STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

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