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Diurnal cycle of deep convection over land status of the intercomparison case runs and dat aset s analysis of t he dat aset s remaining quest ions & work runs and datasets use of more realistic surf ace heat f luxes t o


  1. Diurnal cycle of deep convection over land status of the intercomparison case � runs and dat aset s � analysis of t he dat aset s � remaining quest ions & work

  2. runs and datasets � use of more realistic surf ace heat f luxes t o improve t he diurnal evolut ion of t he BL 6 SCMs and 3 CRMs runs + addit ional runs (sensit ivit y t est s) S. Cheinet also t est ed t his case wit h his BL mass f lux scheme (quit e encouraging) model t ype lab (model name) part icipant s SCM CNRM (ARPEGE Climat ) Grenier SCM ECMWF (I FS) Chaboureau, Koehler, Becht old SCM LMD (LMDz) Tailleux SCM Met Of f ice (UM) Pet ch SCM SMHI (close t o HI RLAM) J ones new SCM CNRM (ARPEGE WF) Piriou CRM CNRM (mésoNH) Chaboureau CRM Met Of f ice (UM) Pet ch new CRM NCAR (UM) Gr abowski

  3. � datasets (sever al new it ems) SCMs dat af iles : t ime st ep values (done) Q1 & Q2 : 1 CRMs , 4 CRMs radiat ive f ields : 1 SCM , 2 SCMs convect ive mass f luxes : everybody cloud f ract ion : 3 CRMs & 5 SCMs subgrid scale f luxes and w’ 2 : not a big succes evaporat ion of rain : st ill t o be done a lot of mat erial ! (available on t his comput er)

  4. analysis � again more consist ency among CRMs t han SCMs � link bet ween deep convect ion and clouds very weak in some SCMs � result s which conf irm what we suspect ed in Ut recht last April, but now wit h t he appropriat e dat aset s � some new analysis (moist ure)

  5. night time rainf all events still tend to occurs earlier in many SCMs local solar time (hour) than in CRMs with new surf f luxes too

  6. now there is a more realistic diurnal cycle of stability in part icular f or SCMs CI N in SCMs

  7. CRMs

  8. but most t end t han ot hers moist er BL shallower in SCMs some BLs t o evolve t oward a

  9. Condensation level in SCMs links wit h BL height dif erences in CRMs scat t er increases af t er sunset ,delicat e f or bot h t ypes of models

  10. in SCMs in CRMs There is a more realist ic diurnal cycle of st abilit y but t he CI N is st ill quasi 0 during t he f ull dayt ime period in SCMs in cont rast wit h CRMs CI N reaches « quasi-0 » around 9h lst in bot h t ypes of models But t he CI N does not explains t he whole st ory in CRMS because rains st art s af t er 12h lst

  11. I n several SCMs, cloud t ops reach high alt it ude direct ly wit hin one t ime st ep

  12. in CRMs saturation def icit cloud f raction rain mixing ratio

  13. SCMs: saturation def icit (qv- qvsat) SCMs: upward convective mass f lux

  14. saturation def icit f or the 2 days t his f eat ure is not as dramat ic t he second day but st ill t hrere

  15. dif f erent layerings, probably linked t o dif f erent convect ive t ransport SCMs of en evolve t owards moist er low level condit ions, not enough t ransport ?

  16. same scenario the second day

  17. t o go f urt her: need t o compare Q2 and moist ure f lux (complex)

  18. less st able in leads t o an apparent ly at mosphere which is SCMs CRMs t han thetae

  19. questions raised, propositions made in Utrecht � f actors controlling the length of the non- precipitating phase? moist ure is one f act or � impact of downdraf ts on stability : t hey increase t he CI N in CRMs not so clear in SCMs not much impact in some SCMs (because t hey are already t oo weak?) � systematic sensitivity study to triggering and downdraf ts? (part ly done, input f rom C. J ones and J .-M. Piriou) � GCM tests (part ly done, ECMWF model) � SCMs behaviour when convection is turned of f ? how does it compares to the shallow cumulus case? (not been done, H. Grenier moved)

  20. � intercomparison paper : in pr eparat ion act ions: f or now most ly myself wit h some help of J on Pet ch + f or t hose who did not do it yet : inf ormat ion concerning t he run (version, ref erences… ) links bet ween BL, shallow & deep convect ion and cloud propert ies (1/ 2 page t o 1 page) … t alk more at t he end of t he session

  21. wrap- up discussion � timetables, deadlines end of EUROCS: 1 March 2003 submission of papers, special issue: in 2003 (spring or lat t er?) coordinat e t imet ables f or report s & paper s � reports, data availability, deliverables report s will include result s f rom CRMs, SCMs and GCMs how long? where do we archive model out put s? available f igures can be put on t he web in J anuary � papers, special issue

  22. PAPERS « Group » paper with a long list of co- authors includes result s f rom � GCMs, RCMS mat erial f or t he int roduct ion, C. J ones & J .-M. Piriou � CRMs & SCMs (int ercomparison) discussion rainf all, cloud t op height , st abilit y, t riggering and downdraught s (not in dept h analysis) A quest ion: f or t he int ercomparison, do we dist inguish bet ween models (dif f erent t ypes of curves… ) or not ? organisat ion, your f eedbacks: wit hin 1 mont h, ok? The « Chaboureau » papers are not f ar f rom ready � t he CRM analysis � t he CRM-SCM-GCM st udy

  23. The GCI N/ GCAPE paper , Remi Tailleux Papers of Jon Petch & Alison Stirling others?

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