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www.software.imdea.org Research Evaluation and Publication Culture in CS ECSS 2016 Panel Manuel Hermenegildo IMDEA Software Institute and T.U. Madrid Research evaluation in CS the good way: Evaluating individuals: Evaluate just a


  1. www.software.imdea.org Research Evaluation and Publication Culture in CS ECSS 2016 Panel Manuel Hermenegildo IMDEA Software Institute and T.U. Madrid Research evaluation in CS – the good way: • Evaluating individuals: • Evaluate just a few times (hiring, tenure, promotion) and deeply. • By a group of experts. • Reading the papers, assessing significance and impact, . . . • Taking into account, e.g., significant artifacts, tech. transfer, . . . • Evaluating departments, institutes • By a group of experts. • In person: presentations, interviews, lab visits, artifact demos, . . . • Talking to "clients": students, graduates, industry. Bibliometry not really appropriate (at least not by itself) here! madrid institute for advanced studies in software development technologies

  2. www.software.imdea.org However, bibliometry inevitably creeps in: • People also want to evaluate and rank: • Many researchers (tens of thousands). • All departments in a country. • All universities in the world. • In those cases: • The good alternative (deep evaluation) is costly and thus unscalable. • Standard (JCR) bibliometry becomes the norm. • University presidents, politicians, etc. rely on it more and more. • And assign funds, awards, etc. based on it. madrid institute for advanced studies in software development technologies

  3. www.software.imdea.org However, bibliometry inevitably creeps in: • People also want to evaluate and rank: • Many researchers (tens of thousands). • All departments in a country. • All universities in the world. • In those cases: • The good alternative (deep evaluation) is costly and thus unscalable. • Standard (JCR) bibliometry becomes the norm. • University presidents, politicians, etc. rely on it more and more. • And assign funds, awards, etc. based on it. • This is a serious problem for CS: • Only Thompson ISI indexed journals really count in practice. • Our (conference) papers and citations are invisible to this system. • I.e., this kind of bibliometry is fundamentally flawed for CS. • No alternative bibliometric mechanism that other sciences will accept. madrid institute for advanced studies in software development technologies

  4. www.software.imdea.org Evolution of Gent U. in Shanghai (less is better) After requiring 2 papers in top indexed journals for PhD: (Thanks to: K. DeBoeschere) madrid institute for advanced studies in software development technologies

  5. www.software.imdea.org The value of our conference papers beyond CS • The value of conference papers is often OK at the CS dept level: • E.g., pushing a tenure case up with few or no journal papers: often OK with explanations (and some contempt from other departments). (but worrying trend in opposite direction, e.g.: many universities in the EU) • But problems start when something is at stake that crosses disciplines: • A university award / a distinguished professor position / a national prize . . . Then: • The low number of journal papers of the CS candidates quickly becomes an issue. • Colleagues from other disciplines quickly turn less understanding here with our "publication culture" –seen as just an excuse vs. someone with 100 "real" papers. madrid institute for advanced studies in software development technologies

  6. www.software.imdea.org The value of our conference papers beyond CS • The value of conference papers is often OK at the CS dept level: • E.g., pushing a tenure case up with few or no journal papers: often OK with explanations (and some contempt from other departments). (but worrying trend in opposite direction, e.g.: many universities in the EU) • But problems start when something is at stake that crosses disciplines: • A university award / a distinguished professor position / a national prize . . . Then: • The low number of journal papers of the CS candidates quickly becomes an issue. • Colleagues from other disciplines quickly turn less understanding here with our "publication culture" –seen as just an excuse vs. someone with 100 "real" papers. • This is not a problem that is "just regional" or "solved": • Even where "solved" it often gets "unsolved" over and over again –will not go away. • In the cases where bibliometry is used we offer no viable alternative. • We cannot be there to fight every time, in every place. madrid institute for advanced studies in software development technologies

  7. www.software.imdea.org We need to publish in journals our conference papers • We need to switch ASAP to publishing all CS papers in indexed journals. • And this has to be done while preserving the conference model: • Our culture will simply not change overnight. • And it is not a good idea either: the CS model does work for us! • Our communities will not give up their excellent conferences with a long tradition. madrid institute for advanced studies in software development technologies

  8. www.software.imdea.org We need to publish in journals our conference papers • We need to switch ASAP to publishing all CS papers in indexed journals. • And this has to be done while preserving the conference model: • Our culture will simply not change overnight. • And it is not a good idea either: the CS model does work for us! • Our communities will not give up their excellent conferences with a long tradition. • A promising current trend: Publish the papers of the conference directly in an (indexed) CS journal, acting as conference proceedings. • The papers in our better conferences are equivalent to journal publications of other sciences in length, speed of refereeing/publication, number of reviews. . . • Not talking about our 50-page CS-style journal papers, which close a topic –different purpose: monographs. madrid institute for advanced studies in software development technologies

  9. www.software.imdea.org Some models: Keeping Conference deadline/PC/etc. • Yearly call for papers issued ahead of the conference (same lead time). • Joint for submission to journal special issue and presentation at the conference. • Keeps submission deadline, dates for notification, etc. • PC chair is editor of special issue. • PC meeting held as usual, but two rounds of refereeing. • The journal special issue (the proceedings) is ready by conference start. • Short/poster papers not published in journal. Used successfully by, e.g., ICLP w/papers published in TPLP (Cambridge U. Press). In this line, new : Proceedings of the ACM (c.f., Michael Hicks) • Common journal for proceedings of ACM flagship conferences. madrid institute for advanced studies in software development technologies

  10. www.software.imdea.org Some alternatives: Very good too: PVLDB, ACM TACO – similar, but: • Continuous submission to the journal all year round. • Accepted papers of previous year invited to present at conference. Definitely interesting, but maybe too radical a change for widespread adoption?: no meeting comparing all papers, no single deadline, no PC?, . . . Special issue after conference / recommending papers to journal. This is really the current model, which is obviously not working –why?: • Normally new editor/reviewers – double work, uncertain results. • Turning 15-page paper into a traditional CS (i.e., /long) journal publication in a short time is not realistic. • You are either creating a double publication or forcing people to produce a different paper in a rush –mixes issues! Thus, only a small percentage of papers go through this process. madrid institute for advanced studies in software development technologies

  11. www.software.imdea.org A longer note on this position statement can be found here: http://dagstuhl.de/mat/Files/12/12452/12452. HermenegildoManuel.Paper.pdf madrid institute for advanced studies in software development technologies

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