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Overview of proposals to limit double ‐ counting credits between A&S non ‐ interdisciplinary majors There are two relevant A&S rules: A. 15 ‐ credit rule for A&S minors “Each minor must, however, include at least 15 credit hours that are being counted solely toward the minor.” Vanderbilt Catalog , p. 72. B. 6 ‐ credit double ‐ counting limitation between an A&S interdisciplinary major and an A&S non ‐ interdisciplinary major “Students may combine an interdisciplinary major with a major in one of the recognized fields listed at the beginning of this chapter. Upon approval of the Committee on Individual Programs and the student’s adviser, (a) as many as 6 hours may be counted as part of both the interdisciplinary major and the second major . . . “ Vanderbilt Catalog , p. 71 .

Problem: How should the A&S faculty reasonably limit double ‐ counting credits between non ‐ interdisciplinary majors? Motion tabled at December, 2010, A&S Faculty Meeting: Each major must include at least 24 credit hours that are being counted solely toward the A&S non ‐ interdisciplinary major a.k.a. the CASP 24 ‐ credit “floor” rule or the “strong” version or interpretation. A&S, at present, has no rule regarding the number of credits that a student may double ‐ count between two A&S non ‐ interdisciplinary majors, which means that there is no limit to double ‐ counting credits between two such majors . Why is a rule advisable?

From the A&S Registrar, Molly Thompson: Here are the possibly problematic combinations: ASTD/HART: 9 hours HART may count toward ASTD CCIV/HART: 9 hours HART may count toward CCIV CCIV/PHIL: 6 hours PHIL may count toward CCIV CMST/ENGL ‐ W: 6 hours ENGL may count toward CMST CMST/PHIL: 9 hours PHIL may count toward CMST CMST/SOC: 9 hours SOC may count toward CMST CMST/PSCI: 6 hours PSCI may count toward CMST CMST/PSY: 6 hours PSY may count toward CMST GER /xx: German Studies major requires 6 hours in “German text” and 6 hours in “German content,” none of which are defined. That is possibly 6 to up to 12 hours of double ‐ counting action. HIST/CLAS: 21 hours CLAS may count toward HIST HIST/ECON: 12 hours ECON may count toward HIST HIST/RLST: 6 hours RLST may count toward HIST MATH ‐ 2/xx: 6 hours outside the department (For MATH/ECON, as you may know, a student could double ‐ count 9 hours.) PSY ‐ R/xx: 6 hours BME, CS, EECE, MATH, PHIL, ANTH, BSCI, SOC may count toward PSY major RLST/CLAS: 9 hours CLAS may count toward RLST RLST/HIST: 21 hours HIST may count toward RLST RLST/PHIL: 12 hours PHIL may count toward RLST

Goals of such a rule limiting double counting credits between A&S non ‐ interdisciplinary majors : 1. Set reasonable limit on double ‐ counting. 2. Ensure that students take a unique set of courses to fulfill major. 3. Protect integrity of major. 4. Prevent it from being more difficult to earn a minor than a second major.

First attempt at a rule (April ‐ May 2010): Extend the 6 ‐ credit limitation between an interdisciplinary major and a non ‐ interdisciplinary major to two A&S non ‐ interdisciplinary majors. Approved by CASP and FC, not approved by the A&S faculty.

6 hour Maximum overlap rule Steady overlap, progressive increase in unique hours. All courses = 3 credits. Courses in gold double ‐ count. 30 30 36 36 42 42 48 48 48 30 Major 1 Major 2 Major 1 Major 2 Major 1 Major 2 Major 1 Major 2 Major 1 Major 2 101 101 101 101 101 101 101 101 101 101 102 102 102 102 102 102 102 102 102 102 1 103 111 1 103 113 103 115 103 117 103 2 104 112 2 104 114 104 116 104 118 104 3 105 113 3 1 105 115 1 105 117 105 119 105 4 106 114 4 2 106 116 2 106 118 106 120 106 5 107 115 5 3 107 117 3 1 107 119 1 107 121 107 6 108 116 6 4 108 118 4 2 108 120 2 108 122 108 7 109 117 7 5 109 119 5 3 109 121 3 1 109 123 1 1 109 117 1 8 110 118 8 6 110 120 6 4 110 122 4 2 110 124 2 2 110 118 2 7 111 121 7 5 111 123 5 3 111 125 3 3 111 119 3 8 112 122 8 6 112 124 6 4 112 126 4 4 112 120 4 7 113 125 7 5 113 127 5 5 113 121 5 8 114 126 8 6 114 128 6 6 114 122 6 7 115 129 7 7 115 123 7 8 116 130 8 8 116 124 8 Student Must Complete: 54hrs of 60 66hrs of 72 78hrs of 84 90hrs of 96 72hrs of 78

Second attempt at a rule (November ‐ December, 2010): CASP has proposed, using the 15 ‐ credit rule for minors as a model, a 24 ‐ credit “floor” for each A&S non ‐ interdisciplinary major. “Each major must include at least 24 credit hours that are being counted solely toward the A&S non ‐ interdisciplinary major. It should be noted that adoption of this rule would apply also to the non ‐ interdisciplinary major for those students who combine such a major with an interdisciplinary major." This is the "strong" interpretation or version of the 24 ‐ credit minimum requirement. Approved by CASP and FC, tabled at December A&S Faculty Meeting.

Strong Interpretation of the 24 hour standard minimum hours Steady unique hours with progressive increase in overlap. All courses = 3 credits. Courses in gold double ‐ count. 30 30 36 36 42 42 48 48 48 30 Major 1 Major 2 Major 1 Major 2 Major 1 Major 2 Major 1 Major 2 Major 1 Major 2 101 101 101 101 101 101 101 101 101 102 102 102 102 102 102 102 102 102 1 103 111 1 103 103 103 103 103 103 103 2 104 112 2 104 104 104 104 104 104 104 3 105 113 3 1 105 113 1 105 105 105 105 105 4 106 114 4 2 106 114 2 106 106 106 106 106 5 107 115 5 3 107 115 3 1 107 115 1 107 107 107 107 6 108 116 6 4 108 116 4 2 108 116 2 108 108 108 108 7 109 117 7 5 109 117 5 3 109 117 3 1 109 117 1 1 109 117 1 8 110 118 8 6 110 118 6 4 110 118 4 2 110 118 2 2 110 118 2 7 111 119 7 5 111 119 5 3 111 119 3 3 111 119 3 8 112 120 8 6 112 120 6 4 112 120 4 4 112 120 4 7 113 121 7 5 113 121 5 5 113 121 5 8 114 122 8 6 114 122 6 6 114 122 6 7 115 123 7 7 115 123 7 8 116 124 8 8 116 124 8 24 hours counted in each major that are not counted in the other major AT ALL 103 111 105 113 107 115 109 117 109 117 104 112 106 114 108 116 110 118 110 118 105 113 107 115 109 117 111 119 111 119 106 114 108 116 110 118 112 120 112 120 107 115 109 117 111 119 113 121 113 121 108 116 110 118 112 120 114 122 114 122 109 117 111 119 113 121 115 123 115 123 110 118 112 120 114 122 116 124 116 124 Student Must Complete: 54hrs of 60 60hrs of 72 66hrs of 84 72hrs of 96 72hrs of 78

Revised version of the 24 ‐ credit minimum rule, as proposed by Professors David Cliffel and John Rafter after the December A&S Faculty Meeting: “Each major must include a minimum of 24 credit hours that are not being counted as part of the 24 credit hour minimum toward another major.” This is the "weak" interpretation or version of the 24 ‐ credit minimum requirement.

Weak Interpretation of the 24 hour standard minimum hours ‐ 48 hours needed to satisfy any major combination Progressive reduction in unique courses and increase in overlap. All courses = 3 credits. Courses in gold double ‐ count. 30 30 36 36 42 42 48 48 48 30 Major 1 Major 2 Major 1 Major 2 Major 1 Major 2 Major 1 Major 2 Major 1 Major 2 101 101 1 101 101 1 101 101 1 101 101 1 101 101 1 102 102 2 102 102 2 102 102 2 102 102 2 102 102 2 1 103 111 3 103 103 3 103 103 3 103 103 3 103 103 3 2 104 112 4 104 104 4 104 104 4 104 104 4 104 104 4 3 105 113 5 1 105 113 5 105 105 5 105 105 5 105 105 5 4 106 114 6 2 106 114 6 106 106 6 106 106 6 106 106 6 5 107 115 7 3 107 115 7 1 107 115 7 107 107 7 107 107 7 6 108 116 8 4 108 116 8 2 108 116 8 108 108 8 108 108 8 7 109 109 5 109 109 3 109 109 1 109 109 1 109 109 8 110 110 6 110 110 4 110 110 2 110 110 2 110 110 7 111 111 5 111 111 3 111 111 3 111 8 112 112 6 112 112 4 112 112 4 112 7 113 113 5 113 113 5 113 8 114 114 6 114 114 6 114 7 115 115 7 115 8 116 116 8 116 24 hours counted in each major that are not counted in the other major's 24 hours 1 103 101 105 101 107 101 109 101 109 101 2 104 102 106 102 108 102 110 102 110 102 3 105 111 107 103 109 103 111 103 111 103 4 106 112 108 104 110 104 112 104 112 104 5 107 113 109 113 111 105 113 105 113 105 6 108 114 110 114 112 106 114 106 114 106 7 109 115 111 115 113 115 115 107 115 107 8 110 116 112 116 114 116 116 108 116 108 Student Must only complete: 48hrs of 60 48 hrs of 72 48hrs of 84 48hrs of 96 48hrs of 78

Revised or alternative version of the 24 ‐ credit minimu m rule as proposed by Professors Gieri Simonett and John Rafter on March 1, 2011: “Each major must include a minimum of 27 credit hours that are not being counted as part of the 27 credit hour minimum toward another major.” This is version 2 of the "weak" interpretation, with a 27 ‐ credit minimum requirement.