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Keeping the baby in mind: Offspring of mothers with perinatal severe mental illness What about the children? Conference, March 8 th 2018 Susan Pawlby susan.pawlby@kcl.ac.uk Channi Kumar Mother and Baby Unit Section of Perinatal Psychiatry, IoPPN


  1. Keeping the baby in mind: Offspring of mothers with perinatal severe mental illness What about the children? Conference, March 8 th 2018 Susan Pawlby susan.pawlby@kcl.ac.uk Channi Kumar Mother and Baby Unit Section of Perinatal Psychiatry, IoPPN , King’s College London

  2. Warmth is the vital element for the growing plant and for the soul of the child. Carl Jung

  3. What can babies do? • Sight • focal distance 20-25 cms • prefers moving, self-deforming, three-dimensional qualities of the human face • Sound • prefers pitch and intensity of the human voice • turns head to sound r

  4. • Smell • prefers mother ’ s smell • Facial expressions • smile, sober expression, frown, grimace • Vocalisations • gurgle, fret, cry

  5. The Brazelton Centre UK • Understanding baby behaviour • Neonatal Behavioural Assessment Scale (NBAS) • Provides detailed information about the individual’s self -regulatory abilities and how the infant manages crying, sleeping, alert states and feeding • For babies from birth to 2 months • Neonatal Behavioural Observations (NBO) • Relationship-building tool between practitioner and parent, supporting the developing parent-infant relationship • For babies from birth to 3 months info@brazelton.co.uk

  6. What do babies need? • Awareness of • physical state and needs • emotional state and needs • social needs

  7. Physical needs • Food, warmth and shelter • Safe handling • Safe environment • Physical health needs recognised and responded to

  8. Emotional needs • Positive expression and affection • Empathy • Mind mindedness • Consistency • Responsiveness • Sensitivity • Acceptance and regulation of emotional states

  9. Social needs • Awareness of the need to use eye and verbal contact in building the relationship • Timing and appropriate use of such contact • Turn-taking • Involvement in three person interactions

  10. Cognitive needs • Age-appropriate stimulation • Play

  11. Secure Attachment Social competence Resilience to cope with adverse life events

  12. Seeing your baby Synchrony Emotional warmth Sensitivity as a person and mutuality and support Mind-mindedness in interaction Secure Attachment

  13. Obstacles to the development of secure attachment • Parent vulnerabilities • mental illness • single, teenage mothers • learning disabilities • own parenting experiences • lack of support • Infant vulnerabilities • pre-maturity, very low birth weight • congenital abnormalities • birth complications • exposure to psychotropic drugs • neonatal behavioural characteristics

  14. Maternal Puerperal Psychiatric Disorders  Depressive illness  Bipolar affective disorders  Anxiety /phobia /panic disorders  Eating disorders  Obsessive compulsive disorder  Schizophrenia /other delusional disorders  Substance/alcohol dependence  Personality disorder

  15. Nature of the Illness • Depressed mood • irritability, feeling that life is not worth living, lack of interest, for example in the baby, which may lead to feelings of guilt and inadequacy, worry, anxiety • Hypomanic mood • overactivity, accelerated speech, distractibility, euphoria, grandiosity

  16. • Delusions • grandiose ideas about the baby, for example the mother may believe that the child has been born for a special purpose or to control the environment, or she may have distorted expectations of the baby ’ s behaviour ( one mother believed her baby could fly), may lead to disturbed and unpredictable behaviour towards the baby

  17. • Obsessions • repetitive rituals can preoccupy the mother so she does not attend to the baby • Hallucinations • mother may experience ‘ command ’ hallucinations telling her to kill or dispose of the baby • may have auditory hallucinations telling her that she is a bad mother

  18. • Disorder of thought form • disorganised thoughts leading to disorganised infant care • Behavioural disturbances • bizarre behaviour, aggression • Agitation • focussed on the child

  19. • Retardation • slowing down, unable to complete caretaking tasks • Confusion/perplexity • disorganised speech • Fluctuation/changing symptoms

  20. Mother-Infant Interaction • Mother • withdrawn, disengaged • flat, expressionless, no physical contact, minimal coherent speech, not focussed on the baby or in play, not attentive • Infant • distressed, protesting • fretful, less attentive, less sensitive to maternal cues, less focussed in play

  21. Mother-Infant Interaction • Mother • intrusive, hostile, angry, irritable, over-stimulating, engulfing • rough tickling, poking, pulling, looming, loud non- contingent speech, exaggerated fake facial expressions, frequent use of toys • Infant • avoidant, disengaged • withdrawn, passive, flat, less attentive, less sensitive to maternal cues, less focussed in play

  22. Promotion of secure attachment Good emotional ‘ immunity ’ comes out of the experience of feeling safely held, touched, seen and helped to recover from stress, whilst the stress response is undermined by separation, uncertainty, lack of contact and lack of regulation Why Love Matters: Sue Gerhardt

  23. Video-feedback Intervention based on ‘ mind-mindedness ’ • Concept developed by Elizabeth Meins • Mother ’ s ability to see her baby as a person, with a mind, thoughts, feelings • Focus on what the baby brings to the interaction What is the baby trying to tell you? Remember that the baby ’ s cues can be vocal, facial, body movements • Sometimes difficult to know – attuned/non-attuned

  24. • Ask mothers questions designed to attune them to their infants’ mental states • What might your baby be thinking here? • What do you think his crying means about how he’s feeling? • Does your baby normally prefer that? • What would s/he say right now if s/he could talk? • Tell me about a time when you were really tuned into what your baby was thinking or feeling. • Informally encouraged and supported to be mind-minded by unit staff

  25. Coding video play sessions • Care Index (Crittenden, 2004) • Maternal variables - sensitive, unresponsive, controlling • Infant variables - co-operative, passive, compulsive, difficult • Maternal speech (Murray et al., 1993) • Infant focussed utterances, mother focussed utterances, other-focussed utterances, negative affect, ascription of infant agency • Mind-related comments (Meins et al, 2001, 2010) • Mother infers the infant’s mental state • Appropriate or non-attuned • Facial affect – smile, neutral, negative expression, gaze aversion (Waters, 2003) • Accompanying maternal utterance • In response to maternal utterance

  26. Maternal sensitivity ** ** *** ** p < .01, *** p < .001

  27. Infant cooperativeness † *** * † p < .10, * p < .05, *** p < .001

  28. Mother-infant interaction on admission and discharge from MBU 2012-2014 10 N=62 9 *** 8 *** 7 CARE-Index score 6 5 * 4 3 2 1 0 m sensitivity m unresponsive b co-operative b passive ***p<.001; *p<.05 Stephenson et al., 2018, BJPsychOpen, in press Admission Discharge

  29. Longer term effects? A Mind-Mindedness Intervention Schacht et al., 2017, Development and Psychopathology, 29 (2) 555-564 • Intervention group participants were 22 women • Standard care group participants were 32 women • Intervention and standard care groups all hospitalised on a mother- and-baby unit • Control group of 49 psychologically well mothers • All groups filmed in a 3-minute face-to-face interaction on admission and discharge. Infants were 1-7 months at the time of the admission video • Both groups reviewed their admission videos individually with a psychologist on the unit at a later date • Admission and discharge observations coded for appropriate and non- attuned mind-related comments

  30. Appropriate mind-related comments (%) 7 * * 6 5 4 Admission Discharge 3 2 1 0 Control Standard care Intervention

  31. Non-attuned mind-related comments (%)

  32. Attachment relationship: Strange Situation • Secure (B) infants explore the environment when not threatened, are affected by the separation, seek comfort and are comforted by the parent when distressed • Insecure avoidant (A) infants do not seek proximity to the parent, appear not to acknowledge the separation and ignore the parent upon return

  33. Attachment relationship: Strange Situation • Insecure ambivalent (C) infants are distressed on separation, and not easy to settle on reunion, e.g. remaining cross / upset / fussy / clingy for protracted period of time • Insecure disorganised/disoriented (D) infants combine elements of A and C: eg approaches the parent then turns away, stilling or freezing behaviours, may appear dazed or frightened

  34. % in attachment groups at follow-up in 2 nd year of life 90 80 70 60 50 Secure Avoidant 40 Disorganised 30 20 10 0 Intervention Standard care 62% Secure in non-clinical middle class samples 15% Disorganised in non-clinical middle class samples; 19% in depressed samples; 43% in drug/alcohol abusing samples

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