God of War or God of Peace?
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Go strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey -- God (1 Sam. 15:3)
Go strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey -- God (1 Sam. 15:3)
Go strike Amalek and Go strike Amalek and devote to destruction all devote to destruction all that they have. Do not that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both spare them, but kill both man and woman, child man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey camel and donkey -- God (1 Sam. 15:3) -- God (1 Sam. 15:3)
Go strike Amalek and Go strike Amalek and devote to destruction all devote to destruction all that they have. Do not that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both spare them, but kill both man and woman, child man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey camel and donkey -- God (1 Sam. 15:3) -- God (1 Sam. 15:3)
A new commandment I Go strike Amalek and Go strike Amalek and give to you, that you devote to destruction all devote to destruction all love one another: just as that they have. Do not that they have. Do not I have loved you, you are spare them, but kill both spare them, but kill both also to love one another. man and woman, child man and woman, child By this all people will and infant, ox and sheep, and infant, ox and sheep, know that you are my camel and donkey camel and donkey disciples, if you have -- God (1 Sam. 15:3) -- God (1 Sam. 15:3) love for one another (Jn. 13:34-35)
Go strike Amalek and Go strike Amalek and devote to destruction all devote to destruction all that they have. Do not that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both spare them, but kill both man and woman, child man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey camel and donkey -- God (1 Sam. 15:3) -- God (1 Sam. 15:3)
Go strike Amalek and Go strike Amalek and You have heard that it devote to destruction all devote to destruction all was said, “You shall love that they have. Do not that they have. Do not your neighbor and hate spare them, but kill both spare them, but kill both your enemy.” But I say to man and woman, child man and woman, child you, Love your enemies and infant, ox and sheep, and infant, ox and sheep, and pray for those who camel and donkey camel and donkey persecute you -- God (1 Sam. 15:3) -- God (1 Sam. 15:3) (Mt. 5:43-44)
Go strike Amalek and Go strike Amalek and devote to destruction all devote to destruction all that they have. Do not that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both spare them, but kill both man and woman, child man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey camel and donkey -- God (1 Sam. 15:3) -- God (1 Sam. 15:3)
You have heard that it Go strike Amalek and Go strike Amalek and was said, “An eye for an devote to destruction all devote to destruction all eye and a tooth for a that they have. Do not that they have. Do not tooth.” But I say to you, spare them, but kill both spare them, but kill both Do not resist the one man and woman, child man and woman, child who is evil. But if and infant, ox and sheep, and infant, ox and sheep, anyone slaps you on the camel and donkey camel and donkey right cheek, turn to him -- God (1 Sam. 15:3) -- God (1 Sam. 15:3) the other also (Mt. 5:38- 39)
You have heard that it was said, “An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.” But I say to you, Do not resist the one who is evil. But if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also (Mt. 5:38- 39)
But in the cities of these But in the cities of these peoples that the Lord your peoples that the Lord your You have heard that it God is giving you for an God is giving you for an was said, “An eye for an inheritance, you shall save inheritance, you shall save eye and a tooth for a alive nothing that breathes, alive nothing that breathes, tooth.” But I say to you, but you shall devote them but you shall devote them to complete destruction, Do not resist the one to complete destruction, the Hittites and the the Hittites and the who is evil. But if Amorites, the Canaanites Amorites, the Canaanites anyone slaps you on the and the Perizzites, the and the Perizzites, the right cheek, turn to him Hivites and the Jebusites, as Hivites and the Jebusites, as the other also (Mt. 5:38- the Lord your God has the Lord your God has 39) commanded (Dt. 20:16-17) commanded (Dt. 20:16-17)
These seem totally opposite to each other
The answers are all over the map
Alter the text
Alter the text “ Why have you despised the word of the Lord, to do what is evil in his sight? ” (2 Sam. 12:19)
Alter the text “ Why have you despised the word of the Lord, to do what is evil in his sight? ” (2 Sam. 12:19) “ Why do you treat the Lord with contempt? ” (2 Sam. 12:19)
Alter the text “ Why have you despised the word of the Lord, to do what is evil in his sight? ” (2 Sam. 12:19)
Alter the text “ Why have you despised the word of the Lord, to do what is evil in his sight? ” (2 Sam. 12:19) “ Why do you treat the Lord with contempt? ” (2 Sam. 12:19)
Alter God
Alter God
Alter God
Alter God Marcion
Shabby, mean, vengeful, hateful O.T. God
Shabby, mean, Shiny, kind vengeful, loving N.T. God hateful O.T. God
The God of Genesis The God of Genesis could not find Adam could not find Adam and Eve, having to and Eve, having to call out, “Where are call out, “Where are you?” (Gen. 3:9) you?” (Gen. 3:9)
The God of Genesis The God of Genesis could not find Adam could not find Adam Jesus knew even and Eve, having to and Eve, having to the thoughts of call out, “Where are call out, “Where are man (Luke 5:22) you?” (Gen. 3:9) you?” (Gen. 3:9)
The O.T. God: “an eye The O.T. God: “an eye for an eye” (Ex. 21:24) for an eye” (Ex. 21:24)
“If someone strikes you The O.T. God: “an eye The O.T. God: “an eye on one cheek, turn to for an eye” (Ex. 21:24) for an eye” (Ex. 21:24) him the other also” (Lk 6:29)
Alter how we read the Bible
Literal
Moral Literal
Allegorical Moral Literal
Allegorical:
Allegorical: Canaanites
Allegorical: Canaanites = humanity’s sin
Allegorical: Canaanites = humanity’s sin Ages and gender
Allegorical: Canaanites = humanity’s sin Ages and gender = old/new sin
Allegorical: Canaanites = humanity’s sin Ages and gender = old/new sin Livestock
Allegorical: Canaanites = humanity’s sin Ages and gender = old/new sin Livestock = all that goes with sin
Allegorical: Canaanites = humanity’s sin Ages and gender = old/new sin Livestock = all that goes with sin Joshua
Allegorical: Canaanites = humanity’s sin Ages and gender = old/new sin Livestock = all that goes with sin Joshua = Jesus
The O.T. as “ancient historiography”
The O.T. as “ancient historiography” • Concerned w/ literary persuasion, not historical objectivity
The O.T. as “ancient historiography” • Concerned w/ literary persuasion, not historical objectivity • Speeches weren’t really said, they just further the storyline
The O.T. as “ancient historiography” • Concerned w/ literary persuasion, not historical objectivity • Speeches weren’t really said, they just further the storyline • Similarly attributions to God are just furthering storylines
The O.T. as “ancient historiography” • Concerned w/ literary persuasion, not historical objectivity • Speeches weren’t really said, they just further the storyline • Similarly attributions to God are just furthering storylines
The O.T. as “ancient historiography” • Concerned w/ literary persuasion, not historical objectivity • Speeches weren’t really said, they just further the storyline • Similarly attributions to God are just furthering storylines
The O.T. as “ancient historiography” • Concerned w/ literary persuasion, not historical objectivity • Speeches weren’t really said, they just further the storyline • Similarly attributions to God are just furthering storylines
Alter how we see God
God is complex and at times abusive
God is complex and at times abusive • God is abusive, but not always
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