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Diagnostics Commercial & Residential www.vaporremoval.com (330) 915.2650 Tony McDonald A-Z Solutions, Inc 03.24.15 RN VS VI RN generally has less barriers to public presentation. Homeowners give permission without hesitation. VI


  1. Diagnostics Commercial & Residential www.vaporremoval.com (330) 915.2650 Tony McDonald A-Z Solutions, Inc 03.24.15

  2. RN VS VI  RN generally has less barriers to public presentation. Homeowners give permission without hesitation.  VI generally has a plethora of obstacles and associated paperwork.  I use RN for diagnostics and pathway identification examples when practical for this reason.  Any of these project could be VI, RN, or both! A-Z Solutions, Inc - 330.915.2650 - Tony@vaporremoval.com

  3. What is “Diagnostics”?  Compiling a dataset of sub-slab airflow measurements at varying pressure for a structure. From this data a functional system design is extrapolated.  In simple terms diagnostics is the process of designing a site specific SSD System.  Diagnostics is a mixture of science, field experience, and feel.  This presentation is about decision making based on diagnostics, not the actual technical process of conducting diagnostics. A-Z Solutions, Inc - 330.915.2650 - Tony@vaporremoval.com

  4. Disconnected Pathways A-Z Solutions, Inc - 330.915.2650 - Tony@vaporremoval.com

  5. House Background  Located in Central Ohio.  Local geology includes Utica and Marcellus Shale Formations.  Initial Radon Levels:  First Floor - 148 pCi/L.  Basement - about 250 pCi/L. All testing was conducted on first floor.  No VI at site.  Original system installed by another contractor.  We were called in by the homeowner after the original contractor was unable to mitigate the house. A-Z Solutions, Inc - 330.915.2650 - Tony@vaporremoval.com

  6. Pre-Mitigation RN Graph 200 180 160 140 120 Hourly 100 4.0 pCi/L Average 80 60 40 20 0 1 3 5 7 9 11 13 15 17 19 21 23 25 27 29 31 33 35 37 39 41 43 45 47 49 51 53 55 57 59 61 63 65 67 69 71 A-Z Solutions, Inc - 330.915.2650 - Tony@vaporremoval.com

  7. Where We Started FR150 - 1.4” 2 X GP501 40 CFM - 2.75” 90 CFM A-Z Solutions, Inc - 330.915.2650 - Tony@vaporremoval.com

  8. Where to start?  The contractor used the “Poke and Hope” method. Poke a hole in the concrete, hope it works!  Throughout the process the contractor never conducted diagnostics.  Without diagnostic data you have no basis for proper decision making.  We also want to look for clues in the hourly RN data. A-Z Solutions, Inc - 330.915.2650 - Tony@vaporremoval.com

  9. Final Contractor RN Data 160 140 120 100 Hourly 80 4.0 pCi/L Average 60 40 20 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38

  10. Communication Test Results WOW! A-Z Solutions, Inc - 330.915.2650 - Tony@vaporremoval.com

  11. With PFE like this what could be the problem?  All test holes showed adequate PFE.  RN / VI Systems are also called Sub-Slab Depressurization systems for a reason right? You depressurize the slab and the RN/VI goes away.  NOT ALWAYS…. A-Z Solutions, Inc - 330.915.2650 - Tony@vaporremoval.com

  12. Recognizing Disconnected Pathways ( above 50 pCi/L )  No amount of pressure on this slab was going to fix the RN problem.  Abnormally high RN levels are not usually associated with extremely high concentrations of U in the ground. They are caused by excessive positive pressure from the soil.  Absence of positive pressure under the slab with the system off should point you to finding an additional pathway with positive pressure.  Adequate PFE and insignificant RN reduction means you missed at least one pathway.  At this house the RN is coming through the walls via pressure from the shale. A-Z Solutions, Inc - 330.915.2650 -  Relieve the pressure on the walls to fix the RN. Tony@vaporremoval.com

  13. Wall Extraction Point A-Z Solutions, Inc - 330.915.2650 - Tony@vaporremoval.com

  14. Cleaning up the mess A-Z Solutions, Inc - 330.915.2650 - Tony@vaporremoval.com

  15. Final PFE Results A-Z Solutions, Inc - 330.915.2650 - Tony@vaporremoval.com

  16. Final RN Levels 1.6 pCi/L 16 14 12 10 Hourly 8 4.0 pCi/L Average 6 4 2 0 1 3 5 7 9 11 13 15 17 19 21 23 25 27 29 31 33 35 37 39 41 43 45 47 49 51 53 55 57 59 61 63 65 67 69 71 73 75 77 79 81 83 85 87 89

  17. Conclusions  Hourly RN data can show disconnected pathways.  PFE – More pressure is not always better. It is usually just an energy waste.  In hard to mitigate homes always look for:  Initial positive pressure.  Large variations in pressure.  Gaps in PFE.  Additional entry routes.  RN and VI can be taking different paths into a structure. A-Z Solutions, Inc - 330.915.2650 - Tony@vaporremoval.com

  18. Commercial Diagnostics A-Z Solutions, Inc - 330.915.2650 - Tony@vaporremoval.com

  19. Background  500,000 FT2 Building located in Northeast OH.  COC – TCE.  Guaranteed Maximum Project.  Funded by CORF.  Minimum - 0.020” across entire area.  2 separate Mitigation Areas  110,000 FT2 vacant area. 30 Days to Complete.  12,500 FT2 occupied area. 10 Days to Complete.  Tight quarters.  24/7 operation. Our design could not cause downtime at the business.  No pipes allowed in this area.  Boring logs show:  12” of concrete.  C onsistent Clay layer to 6’.  No aggregate layer. A-Z Solutions, Inc - 330.915.2650 - Tony@vaporremoval.com

  20. Subject Building A-Z Solutions, Inc - 330.915.2650 - Tony@vaporremoval.com

  21. You could also modify the existing SSD System…  Original system had been running for about 2 years.  There were 5 of these units throughout the building.  4 were running when we encountered them.  Designed by P.E. of previous Environmental Company.  Negative impact on the indoor air samples. A-Z Solutions, Inc - 330.915.2650 - Tony@vaporremoval.com

  22. 110,000 FT2 Section A-Z Solutions, Inc - 330.915.2650 - Tony@vaporremoval.com

  23. Diagnostics Results Test Hole 1 Test Hole 2 A-Z Solutions, Inc - 330.915.2650 - Tony@vaporremoval.com

  24. Extrapolations  50” of applied vacuum will produce:  ~ 10 CFM .  15’ ROI @ - 0.020”.  1 EP would depressurize about 700 ft2.  Traditional system design would require approximately 142 EP and fans.  Location of EPs would render the building unusable. A-Z Solutions, Inc - 330.915.2650 - Tony@vaporremoval.com

  25. A More Efficient Way  Installing suction trenches would eliminate the need for multiple EP’s.  As the trench gets longer, the ROI gets wider, CFMs go up, and the system operating pressure gets Lower. A-Z Solutions, Inc - 330.915.2650 - Tony@vaporremoval.com

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  28. Fan Motors System Fan Watts CFM Pressure - 2.29” 1 FKD12 530 315 - 2.89” 2 FKD12 500 175 - 2.20” 3 FKD12 515 325 - 2.45” 4 FKD12 540 289 A-Z Solutions, Inc - 330.915.2650 - Tony@vaporremoval.com

  29. Final PFE Readings A-Z Solutions, Inc - 330.915.2650 - Tony@vaporremoval.com

  30. 12,500 FT2 Occupied Area A-Z Solutions, Inc - 330.915.2650 - Tony@vaporremoval.com

  31. Limitations of Horizontal Boring  Reaming causes  Usually does not take compaction which requires advantage of subsidence. higher pressure to compensate. A-Z Solutions, Inc - 330.915.2650 - Tony@vaporremoval.com

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  33. Final PFE Readings A-Z Solutions, Inc - 330.915.2650 - Tony@vaporremoval.com

  34. System Efficiency Area 1 w Trench Area 2 w HB Area 1 w EP Total ft2 110,000 12,500 110,000 Number of Fans 4 5 142 Total System 2,085 1,375 46,860 Wattage Monthly cost at $152.22 $100.39 $3,421.15 $0.10 KWH Fan Warranty 5 Years 1 Year 1 Year Life Expectancy 10 Years 3 Years 3 Years Cost to Replace X 4X 4X 9.1 2.13 FT2 47.9 Depressurized per Watt A-Z Solutions, Inc - 330.915.2650 - Tony@vaporremoval.com

  35. Conclusions  Suction Trenches are an effective Force Multiplier, but generate large amounts of soil for disposal.  Horizontal Borings can be an effective technology to enhance SSD.  Usually require the same pressure as a normal EP.  ROI becomes a cylinder around bore hole.  Does not generate soil for disposal.  Be aware of the water table.  Systems install in 2012/13  Trench System – No Maintenance.  Boring System – 2 Motor Replacements. A-Z Solutions, Inc - 330.915.2650 - Tony@vaporremoval.com

  36. Thank You A-Z Solutions, Inc - 330.915.2650 - Tony@vaporremoval.com

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