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The Normal Science of Heterogeneous Agents Macroeconomics Christopher Carroll 1 1 Johns Hopkins University and NBER ccarroll@jhu.edu RBNZ Conference on Heterogeneous Agents And Housing December 11, 2017 Is Economics A Science? Frank


  1. Microfoundations of Macro: “Serious” and “Unserious” Broad agreement by 1970s (from all camps): Macroeconomics needed better “microfoundations” Lucas (1970s-vintage) Macro theories should be tightly constrained to be consistent with all the relevant micro evidence Call this “Serious” microfoundations Fatal Step in 1980s: Accepting “unserious” microfoundations “If model has has only one agent, it is microfounded” Where Did That Leave Us? Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  2. RA DSGE Is Not And Can Never Be “Normal” Science By RA DSGE I mean a hard-core version: Micro evidence inadmissible Example: Call “habit” γ in ∆ C t +1 = γ ∆ C t + ǫ t +1 EER metadata analysis of 597 estimates NIPA data: Average γ ≈ 0 . 6, always highly significant Micro data: Average γ ≈ 0 . 1, almost never significant Response? Ignore micro evidence Partial Equilibrium is for wussies RA DSPE (e.g., Mian and Sufi; Steinsson and Nakamura)? Useless because not GE Only criterion of success: How well does RA DSGE model fit existing NIPA data Nothing else in heaven and earth, Horatio . . . Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  3. RA DSGE Is Not And Can Never Be “Normal” Science By RA DSGE I mean a hard-core version: Micro evidence inadmissible Example: Call “habit” γ in ∆ C t +1 = γ ∆ C t + ǫ t +1 EER metadata analysis of 597 estimates NIPA data: Average γ ≈ 0 . 6, always highly significant Micro data: Average γ ≈ 0 . 1, almost never significant Response? Ignore micro evidence Partial Equilibrium is for wussies RA DSPE (e.g., Mian and Sufi; Steinsson and Nakamura)? Useless because not GE Only criterion of success: How well does RA DSGE model fit existing NIPA data Nothing else in heaven and earth, Horatio . . . Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  4. RA DSGE Is Not And Can Never Be “Normal” Science By RA DSGE I mean a hard-core version: Micro evidence inadmissible Example: Call “habit” γ in ∆ C t +1 = γ ∆ C t + ǫ t +1 EER metadata analysis of 597 estimates NIPA data: Average γ ≈ 0 . 6, always highly significant Micro data: Average γ ≈ 0 . 1, almost never significant Response? Ignore micro evidence Partial Equilibrium is for wussies RA DSPE (e.g., Mian and Sufi; Steinsson and Nakamura)? Useless because not GE Only criterion of success: How well does RA DSGE model fit existing NIPA data Nothing else in heaven and earth, Horatio . . . Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  5. RA DSGE Is Not And Can Never Be “Normal” Science By RA DSGE I mean a hard-core version: Micro evidence inadmissible Example: Call “habit” γ in ∆ C t +1 = γ ∆ C t + ǫ t +1 EER metadata analysis of 597 estimates NIPA data: Average γ ≈ 0 . 6, always highly significant Micro data: Average γ ≈ 0 . 1, almost never significant Response? Ignore micro evidence Partial Equilibrium is for wussies RA DSPE (e.g., Mian and Sufi; Steinsson and Nakamura)? Useless because not GE Only criterion of success: How well does RA DSGE model fit existing NIPA data Nothing else in heaven and earth, Horatio . . . Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  6. RA DSGE Is Not And Can Never Be “Normal” Science By RA DSGE I mean a hard-core version: Micro evidence inadmissible Example: Call “habit” γ in ∆ C t +1 = γ ∆ C t + ǫ t +1 EER metadata analysis of 597 estimates NIPA data: Average γ ≈ 0 . 6, always highly significant Micro data: Average γ ≈ 0 . 1, almost never significant Response? Ignore micro evidence Partial Equilibrium is for wussies RA DSPE (e.g., Mian and Sufi; Steinsson and Nakamura)? Useless because not GE Only criterion of success: How well does RA DSGE model fit existing NIPA data Nothing else in heaven and earth, Horatio . . . Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  7. RA DSGE Is Not And Can Never Be “Normal” Science By RA DSGE I mean a hard-core version: Micro evidence inadmissible Example: Call “habit” γ in ∆ C t +1 = γ ∆ C t + ǫ t +1 EER metadata analysis of 597 estimates NIPA data: Average γ ≈ 0 . 6, always highly significant Micro data: Average γ ≈ 0 . 1, almost never significant Response? Ignore micro evidence Partial Equilibrium is for wussies RA DSPE (e.g., Mian and Sufi; Steinsson and Nakamura)? Useless because not GE Only criterion of success: How well does RA DSGE model fit existing NIPA data Nothing else in heaven and earth, Horatio . . . Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  8. RA DSGE Is Not And Can Never Be “Normal” Science By RA DSGE I mean a hard-core version: Micro evidence inadmissible Example: Call “habit” γ in ∆ C t +1 = γ ∆ C t + ǫ t +1 EER metadata analysis of 597 estimates NIPA data: Average γ ≈ 0 . 6, always highly significant Micro data: Average γ ≈ 0 . 1, almost never significant Response? Ignore micro evidence Partial Equilibrium is for wussies RA DSPE (e.g., Mian and Sufi; Steinsson and Nakamura)? Useless because not GE Only criterion of success: How well does RA DSGE model fit existing NIPA data Nothing else in heaven and earth, Horatio . . . Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  9. RA DSGE Is Not And Can Never Be “Normal” Science By RA DSGE I mean a hard-core version: Micro evidence inadmissible Example: Call “habit” γ in ∆ C t +1 = γ ∆ C t + ǫ t +1 EER metadata analysis of 597 estimates NIPA data: Average γ ≈ 0 . 6, always highly significant Micro data: Average γ ≈ 0 . 1, almost never significant Response? Ignore micro evidence Partial Equilibrium is for wussies RA DSPE (e.g., Mian and Sufi; Steinsson and Nakamura)? Useless because not GE Only criterion of success: How well does RA DSGE model fit existing NIPA data Nothing else in heaven and earth, Horatio . . . Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  10. RA DSGE Is Not And Can Never Be “Normal” Science By RA DSGE I mean a hard-core version: Micro evidence inadmissible Example: Call “habit” γ in ∆ C t +1 = γ ∆ C t + ǫ t +1 EER metadata analysis of 597 estimates NIPA data: Average γ ≈ 0 . 6, always highly significant Micro data: Average γ ≈ 0 . 1, almost never significant Response? Ignore micro evidence Partial Equilibrium is for wussies RA DSPE (e.g., Mian and Sufi; Steinsson and Nakamura)? Useless because not GE Only criterion of success: How well does RA DSGE model fit existing NIPA data Nothing else in heaven and earth, Horatio . . . Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  11. RA DSGE Is Not And Can Never Be “Normal” Science By RA DSGE I mean a hard-core version: Micro evidence inadmissible Example: Call “habit” γ in ∆ C t +1 = γ ∆ C t + ǫ t +1 EER metadata analysis of 597 estimates NIPA data: Average γ ≈ 0 . 6, always highly significant Micro data: Average γ ≈ 0 . 1, almost never significant Response? Ignore micro evidence Partial Equilibrium is for wussies RA DSPE (e.g., Mian and Sufi; Steinsson and Nakamura)? Useless because not GE Only criterion of success: How well does RA DSGE model fit existing NIPA data Nothing else in heaven and earth, Horatio . . . Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  12. RA DSGE Is Not And Can Never Be “Normal” Science By RA DSGE I mean a hard-core version: Micro evidence inadmissible Example: Call “habit” γ in ∆ C t +1 = γ ∆ C t + ǫ t +1 EER metadata analysis of 597 estimates NIPA data: Average γ ≈ 0 . 6, always highly significant Micro data: Average γ ≈ 0 . 1, almost never significant Response? Ignore micro evidence Partial Equilibrium is for wussies RA DSPE (e.g., Mian and Sufi; Steinsson and Nakamura)? Useless because not GE Only criterion of success: How well does RA DSGE model fit existing NIPA data Nothing else in heaven and earth, Horatio . . . Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  13. RA DSGE Is Not And Can Never Be “Normal” Science By RA DSGE I mean a hard-core version: Micro evidence inadmissible Example: Call “habit” γ in ∆ C t +1 = γ ∆ C t + ǫ t +1 EER metadata analysis of 597 estimates NIPA data: Average γ ≈ 0 . 6, always highly significant Micro data: Average γ ≈ 0 . 1, almost never significant Response? Ignore micro evidence Partial Equilibrium is for wussies RA DSPE (e.g., Mian and Sufi; Steinsson and Nakamura)? Useless because not GE Only criterion of success: How well does RA DSGE model fit existing NIPA data Nothing else in heaven and earth, Horatio . . . Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  14. RA DSGE Is Not And Can Never Be “Normal” Science By RA DSGE I mean a hard-core version: Micro evidence inadmissible Example: Call “habit” γ in ∆ C t +1 = γ ∆ C t + ǫ t +1 EER metadata analysis of 597 estimates NIPA data: Average γ ≈ 0 . 6, always highly significant Micro data: Average γ ≈ 0 . 1, almost never significant Response? Ignore micro evidence Partial Equilibrium is for wussies RA DSPE (e.g., Mian and Sufi; Steinsson and Nakamura)? Useless because not GE Only criterion of success: How well does RA DSGE model fit existing NIPA data Nothing else in heaven and earth, Horatio . . . Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  15. RA DSGE Is Not And Can Never Be “Normal” Science By RA DSGE I mean a hard-core version: Micro evidence inadmissible Example: Call “habit” γ in ∆ C t +1 = γ ∆ C t + ǫ t +1 EER metadata analysis of 597 estimates NIPA data: Average γ ≈ 0 . 6, always highly significant Micro data: Average γ ≈ 0 . 1, almost never significant Response? Ignore micro evidence Partial Equilibrium is for wussies RA DSPE (e.g., Mian and Sufi; Steinsson and Nakamura)? Useless because not GE Only criterion of success: How well does RA DSGE model fit existing NIPA data Nothing else in heaven and earth, Horatio . . . Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  16. RA DSGE Is Not And Can Never Be “Normal” Science By RA DSGE I mean a hard-core version: Micro evidence inadmissible Example: Call “habit” γ in ∆ C t +1 = γ ∆ C t + ǫ t +1 EER metadata analysis of 597 estimates NIPA data: Average γ ≈ 0 . 6, always highly significant Micro data: Average γ ≈ 0 . 1, almost never significant Response? Ignore micro evidence Partial Equilibrium is for wussies RA DSPE (e.g., Mian and Sufi; Steinsson and Nakamura)? Useless because not GE Only criterion of success: How well does RA DSGE model fit existing NIPA data Nothing else in heaven and earth, Horatio . . . Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  17. RA DSGE Is Not And Can Never Be “Normal” Science By RA DSGE I mean a hard-core version: Micro evidence inadmissible Example: Call “habit” γ in ∆ C t +1 = γ ∆ C t + ǫ t +1 EER metadata analysis of 597 estimates NIPA data: Average γ ≈ 0 . 6, always highly significant Micro data: Average γ ≈ 0 . 1, almost never significant Response? Ignore micro evidence Partial Equilibrium is for wussies RA DSPE (e.g., Mian and Sufi; Steinsson and Nakamura)? Useless because not GE Only criterion of success: How well does RA DSGE model fit existing NIPA data Nothing else in heaven and earth, Horatio . . . Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  18. RA DSGE Is Not And Can Never Be “Normal” Science By RA DSGE I mean a hard-core version: Micro evidence inadmissible Example: Call “habit” γ in ∆ C t +1 = γ ∆ C t + ǫ t +1 EER metadata analysis of 597 estimates NIPA data: Average γ ≈ 0 . 6, always highly significant Micro data: Average γ ≈ 0 . 1, almost never significant Response? Ignore micro evidence Partial Equilibrium is for wussies RA DSPE (e.g., Mian and Sufi; Steinsson and Nakamura)? Useless because not GE Only criterion of success: How well does RA DSGE model fit existing NIPA data Nothing else in heaven and earth, Horatio . . . Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  19. RA DSGE Is Not And Can Never Be “Normal” Science By RA DSGE I mean a hard-core version: Micro evidence inadmissible Example: Call “habit” γ in ∆ C t +1 = γ ∆ C t + ǫ t +1 EER metadata analysis of 597 estimates NIPA data: Average γ ≈ 0 . 6, always highly significant Micro data: Average γ ≈ 0 . 1, almost never significant Response? Ignore micro evidence Partial Equilibrium is for wussies RA DSPE (e.g., Mian and Sufi; Steinsson and Nakamura)? Useless because not GE Only criterion of success: How well does RA DSGE model fit existing NIPA data Nothing else in heaven and earth, Horatio . . . Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  20. RA DSGE Is Ptolemaic, Not Galilean Astronomy Ptolemaic: Reverse Engineer Theory to Match All the Past Data New Data Are A Trickle (almost no out-of-sample testing) Resolve “Puzzles” By Adding “Epicycles” Galilean: Collect New Data OMG - Jupiter has Moons! When Data Reject Theory, Consider New Theory Not just epicycles on old one Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  21. RA DSGE Is Ptolemaic, Not Galilean Astronomy Ptolemaic: Reverse Engineer Theory to Match All the Past Data New Data Are A Trickle (almost no out-of-sample testing) Resolve “Puzzles” By Adding “Epicycles” Galilean: Collect New Data OMG - Jupiter has Moons! When Data Reject Theory, Consider New Theory Not just epicycles on old one Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  22. RA DSGE Is Ptolemaic, Not Galilean Astronomy Ptolemaic: Reverse Engineer Theory to Match All the Past Data New Data Are A Trickle (almost no out-of-sample testing) Resolve “Puzzles” By Adding “Epicycles” Galilean: Collect New Data OMG - Jupiter has Moons! When Data Reject Theory, Consider New Theory Not just epicycles on old one Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  23. RA DSGE Is Ptolemaic, Not Galilean Astronomy Ptolemaic: Reverse Engineer Theory to Match All the Past Data New Data Are A Trickle (almost no out-of-sample testing) Resolve “Puzzles” By Adding “Epicycles” Galilean: Collect New Data OMG - Jupiter has Moons! When Data Reject Theory, Consider New Theory Not just epicycles on old one Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  24. RA DSGE Is Ptolemaic, Not Galilean Astronomy Ptolemaic: Reverse Engineer Theory to Match All the Past Data New Data Are A Trickle (almost no out-of-sample testing) Resolve “Puzzles” By Adding “Epicycles” Galilean: Collect New Data OMG - Jupiter has Moons! When Data Reject Theory, Consider New Theory Not just epicycles on old one Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  25. RA DSGE Is Ptolemaic, Not Galilean Astronomy Ptolemaic: Reverse Engineer Theory to Match All the Past Data New Data Are A Trickle (almost no out-of-sample testing) Resolve “Puzzles” By Adding “Epicycles” Galilean: Collect New Data OMG - Jupiter has Moons! When Data Reject Theory, Consider New Theory Not just epicycles on old one Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  26. RA DSGE Is Ptolemaic, Not Galilean Astronomy Ptolemaic: Reverse Engineer Theory to Match All the Past Data New Data Are A Trickle (almost no out-of-sample testing) Resolve “Puzzles” By Adding “Epicycles” Galilean: Collect New Data OMG - Jupiter has Moons! When Data Reject Theory, Consider New Theory Not just epicycles on old one Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  27. RA DSGE Is Ptolemaic, Not Galilean Astronomy Ptolemaic: Reverse Engineer Theory to Match All the Past Data New Data Are A Trickle (almost no out-of-sample testing) Resolve “Puzzles” By Adding “Epicycles” Galilean: Collect New Data OMG - Jupiter has Moons! When Data Reject Theory, Consider New Theory Not just epicycles on old one Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  28. Culmination of Ptolemaic Astronomy Figure: Armillary Sphere, 1593 Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  29. Last Time Anybody Tried This For Economics . . . Bill Phillips (a Kiwi!): Figure: MONIAC Hydraulic Model of the Economy Source: Reserve Bank of New Zealand Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  30. RA DSGE “Puzzles” get “Solved” By Adding Epicycles “Epicycles” 0. Add “Frictions” of various kinds; 1. Change dynamics of shocks; 2. Change production function; 3. Change Utility Function: Habits Epstein-Weil Time Varying: Risk Aversion Labor/Leisure Preferences 4. Unobservable “shocks” to marginal utility; 5. Unobservable “intermediate” sectors; 6. . . . Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  31. RA DSGE “Puzzles” get “Solved” By Adding Epicycles “Epicycles” 0. Add “Frictions” of various kinds; 1. Change dynamics of shocks; 2. Change production function; 3. Change Utility Function: Habits Epstein-Weil Time Varying: Risk Aversion Labor/Leisure Preferences 4. Unobservable “shocks” to marginal utility; 5. Unobservable “intermediate” sectors; 6. . . . Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  32. RA DSGE “Puzzles” get “Solved” By Adding Epicycles “Epicycles” 0. Add “Frictions” of various kinds; 1. Change dynamics of shocks; 2. Change production function; 3. Change Utility Function: Habits Epstein-Weil Time Varying: Risk Aversion Labor/Leisure Preferences 4. Unobservable “shocks” to marginal utility; 5. Unobservable “intermediate” sectors; 6. . . . Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  33. RA DSGE “Puzzles” get “Solved” By Adding Epicycles “Epicycles” 0. Add “Frictions” of various kinds; 1. Change dynamics of shocks; 2. Change production function; 3. Change Utility Function: Habits Epstein-Weil Time Varying: Risk Aversion Labor/Leisure Preferences 4. Unobservable “shocks” to marginal utility; 5. Unobservable “intermediate” sectors; 6. . . . Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  34. RA DSGE “Puzzles” get “Solved” By Adding Epicycles “Epicycles” 0. Add “Frictions” of various kinds; 1. Change dynamics of shocks; 2. Change production function; 3. Change Utility Function: Habits Epstein-Weil Time Varying: Risk Aversion Labor/Leisure Preferences 4. Unobservable “shocks” to marginal utility; 5. Unobservable “intermediate” sectors; 6. . . . Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  35. RA DSGE “Puzzles” get “Solved” By Adding Epicycles “Epicycles” 0. Add “Frictions” of various kinds; 1. Change dynamics of shocks; 2. Change production function; 3. Change Utility Function: Habits Epstein-Weil Time Varying: Risk Aversion Labor/Leisure Preferences 4. Unobservable “shocks” to marginal utility; 5. Unobservable “intermediate” sectors; 6. . . . Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  36. RA DSGE “Puzzles” get “Solved” By Adding Epicycles “Epicycles” 0. Add “Frictions” of various kinds; 1. Change dynamics of shocks; 2. Change production function; 3. Change Utility Function: Habits Epstein-Weil Time Varying: Risk Aversion Labor/Leisure Preferences 4. Unobservable “shocks” to marginal utility; 5. Unobservable “intermediate” sectors; 6. . . . Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  37. RA DSGE “Puzzles” get “Solved” By Adding Epicycles “Epicycles” 0. Add “Frictions” of various kinds; 1. Change dynamics of shocks; 2. Change production function; 3. Change Utility Function: Habits Epstein-Weil Time Varying: Risk Aversion Labor/Leisure Preferences 4. Unobservable “shocks” to marginal utility; 5. Unobservable “intermediate” sectors; 6. . . . Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  38. RA DSGE “Puzzles” get “Solved” By Adding Epicycles “Epicycles” 0. Add “Frictions” of various kinds; 1. Change dynamics of shocks; 2. Change production function; 3. Change Utility Function: Habits Epstein-Weil Time Varying: Risk Aversion Labor/Leisure Preferences 4. Unobservable “shocks” to marginal utility; 5. Unobservable “intermediate” sectors; 6. . . . Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  39. RA DSGE “Puzzles” get “Solved” By Adding Epicycles “Epicycles” 0. Add “Frictions” of various kinds; 1. Change dynamics of shocks; 2. Change production function; 3. Change Utility Function: Habits Epstein-Weil Time Varying: Risk Aversion Labor/Leisure Preferences 4. Unobservable “shocks” to marginal utility; 5. Unobservable “intermediate” sectors; 6. . . . Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  40. RA DSGE “Puzzles” get “Solved” By Adding Epicycles “Epicycles” 0. Add “Frictions” of various kinds; 1. Change dynamics of shocks; 2. Change production function; 3. Change Utility Function: Habits Epstein-Weil Time Varying: Risk Aversion Labor/Leisure Preferences 4. Unobservable “shocks” to marginal utility; 5. Unobservable “intermediate” sectors; 6. . . . Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  41. RA DSGE “Puzzles” get “Solved” By Adding Epicycles “Epicycles” 0. Add “Frictions” of various kinds; 1. Change dynamics of shocks; 2. Change production function; 3. Change Utility Function: Habits Epstein-Weil Time Varying: Risk Aversion Labor/Leisure Preferences 4. Unobservable “shocks” to marginal utility; 5. Unobservable “intermediate” sectors; 6. . . . Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  42. After 30 years of reverse engineering of Epicycles: From practitioners, not uncommon to see claims like: RA DSGE Models Match The Data Remarkably Well This A Bug Not A Feature Not that there’s anything wrong . . . . . . with (most of) Epicycles per se Many might even be right Problems: 0. No way to test the epicycles 1. Complexity Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  43. After 30 years of reverse engineering of Epicycles: From practitioners, not uncommon to see claims like: RA DSGE Models Match The Data Remarkably Well This A Bug Not A Feature Not that there’s anything wrong . . . . . . with (most of) Epicycles per se Many might even be right Problems: 0. No way to test the epicycles 1. Complexity Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  44. After 30 years of reverse engineering of Epicycles: From practitioners, not uncommon to see claims like: RA DSGE Models Match The Data Remarkably Well This A Bug Not A Feature Not that there’s anything wrong . . . . . . with (most of) Epicycles per se Many might even be right Problems: 0. No way to test the epicycles 1. Complexity Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  45. After 30 years of reverse engineering of Epicycles: From practitioners, not uncommon to see claims like: RA DSGE Models Match The Data Remarkably Well This A Bug Not A Feature Not that there’s anything wrong . . . . . . with (most of) Epicycles per se Many might even be right Problems: 0. No way to test the epicycles 1. Complexity Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  46. After 30 years of reverse engineering of Epicycles: From practitioners, not uncommon to see claims like: RA DSGE Models Match The Data Remarkably Well This A Bug Not A Feature Not that there’s anything wrong . . . . . . with (most of) Epicycles per se Many might even be right Problems: 0. No way to test the epicycles 1. Complexity Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  47. After 30 years of reverse engineering of Epicycles: From practitioners, not uncommon to see claims like: RA DSGE Models Match The Data Remarkably Well This A Bug Not A Feature Not that there’s anything wrong . . . . . . with (most of) Epicycles per se Many might even be right Problems: 0. No way to test the epicycles 1. Complexity Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  48. For Ptolemic and and For RA DSGE No way to test whether whether epicycle is right or not within the rules of the game: If adding the epicycle fixes the problem . . . In principle, nothing more can be done What if ∃ 5 equally good fixes for existing NIPA data? If NIPA-indistinguishable in principle, we’ll never know If NIPA-distinguishable, wait a long time Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  49. For Ptolemic and and For RA DSGE No way to test whether whether epicycle is right or not within the rules of the game: If adding the epicycle fixes the problem . . . In principle, nothing more can be done What if ∃ 5 equally good fixes for existing NIPA data? If NIPA-indistinguishable in principle, we’ll never know If NIPA-distinguishable, wait a long time Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  50. For Ptolemic and and For RA DSGE No way to test whether whether epicycle is right or not within the rules of the game: If adding the epicycle fixes the problem . . . In principle, nothing more can be done What if ∃ 5 equally good fixes for existing NIPA data? If NIPA-indistinguishable in principle, we’ll never know If NIPA-distinguishable, wait a long time Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  51. For Ptolemic and and For RA DSGE No way to test whether whether epicycle is right or not within the rules of the game: If adding the epicycle fixes the problem . . . In principle, nothing more can be done What if ∃ 5 equally good fixes for existing NIPA data? If NIPA-indistinguishable in principle, we’ll never know If NIPA-distinguishable, wait a long time Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  52. For Ptolemic and and For RA DSGE No way to test whether whether epicycle is right or not within the rules of the game: If adding the epicycle fixes the problem . . . In principle, nothing more can be done What if ∃ 5 equally good fixes for existing NIPA data? If NIPA-indistinguishable in principle, we’ll never know If NIPA-distinguishable, wait a long time Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  53. Complexity With all the “standard” epicycles Benchmark RA DSGE Models Now have ≈ 50 parameters Estimated with 60 years of data Key original selling point of simplicty has been lost With All the Epicycles, RA DSGE is to the MONIAC . . . . . . as the Death Star is to the Armillary Sphere Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  54. Complexity With all the “standard” epicycles Benchmark RA DSGE Models Now have ≈ 50 parameters Estimated with 60 years of data Key original selling point of simplicty has been lost With All the Epicycles, RA DSGE is to the MONIAC . . . . . . as the Death Star is to the Armillary Sphere Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  55. Complexity With all the “standard” epicycles Benchmark RA DSGE Models Now have ≈ 50 parameters Estimated with 60 years of data Key original selling point of simplicty has been lost With All the Epicycles, RA DSGE is to the MONIAC . . . . . . as the Death Star is to the Armillary Sphere Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  56. Complexity With all the “standard” epicycles Benchmark RA DSGE Models Now have ≈ 50 parameters Estimated with 60 years of data Key original selling point of simplicty has been lost With All the Epicycles, RA DSGE is to the MONIAC . . . . . . as the Death Star is to the Armillary Sphere Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  57. Complexity With all the “standard” epicycles Benchmark RA DSGE Models Now have ≈ 50 parameters Estimated with 60 years of data Key original selling point of simplicty has been lost With All the Epicycles, RA DSGE is to the MONIAC . . . . . . as the Death Star is to the Armillary Sphere Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  58. Complexity With all the “standard” epicycles Benchmark RA DSGE Models Now have ≈ 50 parameters Estimated with 60 years of data Key original selling point of simplicty has been lost With All the Epicycles, RA DSGE is to the MONIAC . . . . . . as the Death Star is to the Armillary Sphere Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  59. “The Normal Science of HA Macro” HA Macro is like Galilean (that is, scientific) Astronomy What Does Normal Science Do? Seek New and Better Data To Measure Key Predictions Better and Better Telescopes Test New Propositions (Not Thought Of Before): Parallax seasonal shift of nearby stars’ apparent positions Use Theory To Address Previous Non-Questions Orbits of Comets Halley New Explanations Of Old Phenomena Tides Reflect Moon’s Gravity Not, e.g., Moon Blowing On Ocean Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  60. “The Normal Science of HA Macro” HA Macro is like Galilean (that is, scientific) Astronomy What Does Normal Science Do? Seek New and Better Data To Measure Key Predictions Better and Better Telescopes Test New Propositions (Not Thought Of Before): Parallax seasonal shift of nearby stars’ apparent positions Use Theory To Address Previous Non-Questions Orbits of Comets Halley New Explanations Of Old Phenomena Tides Reflect Moon’s Gravity Not, e.g., Moon Blowing On Ocean Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  61. “The Normal Science of HA Macro” HA Macro is like Galilean (that is, scientific) Astronomy What Does Normal Science Do? Seek New and Better Data To Measure Key Predictions Better and Better Telescopes Test New Propositions (Not Thought Of Before): Parallax seasonal shift of nearby stars’ apparent positions Use Theory To Address Previous Non-Questions Orbits of Comets Halley New Explanations Of Old Phenomena Tides Reflect Moon’s Gravity Not, e.g., Moon Blowing On Ocean Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  62. “The Normal Science of HA Macro” HA Macro is like Galilean (that is, scientific) Astronomy What Does Normal Science Do? Seek New and Better Data To Measure Key Predictions Better and Better Telescopes Test New Propositions (Not Thought Of Before): Parallax seasonal shift of nearby stars’ apparent positions Use Theory To Address Previous Non-Questions Orbits of Comets Halley New Explanations Of Old Phenomena Tides Reflect Moon’s Gravity Not, e.g., Moon Blowing On Ocean Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  63. “The Normal Science of HA Macro” HA Macro is like Galilean (that is, scientific) Astronomy What Does Normal Science Do? Seek New and Better Data To Measure Key Predictions Better and Better Telescopes Test New Propositions (Not Thought Of Before): Parallax seasonal shift of nearby stars’ apparent positions Use Theory To Address Previous Non-Questions Orbits of Comets Halley New Explanations Of Old Phenomena Tides Reflect Moon’s Gravity Not, e.g., Moon Blowing On Ocean Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  64. “The Normal Science of HA Macro” HA Macro is like Galilean (that is, scientific) Astronomy What Does Normal Science Do? Seek New and Better Data To Measure Key Predictions Better and Better Telescopes Test New Propositions (Not Thought Of Before): Parallax seasonal shift of nearby stars’ apparent positions Use Theory To Address Previous Non-Questions Orbits of Comets Halley New Explanations Of Old Phenomena Tides Reflect Moon’s Gravity Not, e.g., Moon Blowing On Ocean Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  65. “The Normal Science of HA Macro” HA Macro is like Galilean (that is, scientific) Astronomy What Does Normal Science Do? Seek New and Better Data To Measure Key Predictions Better and Better Telescopes Test New Propositions (Not Thought Of Before): Parallax seasonal shift of nearby stars’ apparent positions Use Theory To Address Previous Non-Questions Orbits of Comets Halley New Explanations Of Old Phenomena Tides Reflect Moon’s Gravity Not, e.g., Moon Blowing On Ocean Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  66. “The Normal Science of HA Macro” HA Macro is like Galilean (that is, scientific) Astronomy What Does Normal Science Do? Seek New and Better Data To Measure Key Predictions Better and Better Telescopes Test New Propositions (Not Thought Of Before): Parallax seasonal shift of nearby stars’ apparent positions Use Theory To Address Previous Non-Questions Orbits of Comets Halley New Explanations Of Old Phenomena Tides Reflect Moon’s Gravity Not, e.g., Moon Blowing On Ocean Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  67. “The Normal Science of HA Macro” HA Macro is like Galilean (that is, scientific) Astronomy What Does Normal Science Do? Seek New and Better Data To Measure Key Predictions Better and Better Telescopes Test New Propositions (Not Thought Of Before): Parallax seasonal shift of nearby stars’ apparent positions Use Theory To Address Previous Non-Questions Orbits of Comets Halley New Explanations Of Old Phenomena Tides Reflect Moon’s Gravity Not, e.g., Moon Blowing On Ocean Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  68. “The Normal Science of HA Macro” HA Macro is like Galilean (that is, scientific) Astronomy What Does Normal Science Do? Seek New and Better Data To Measure Key Predictions Better and Better Telescopes Test New Propositions (Not Thought Of Before): Parallax seasonal shift of nearby stars’ apparent positions Use Theory To Address Previous Non-Questions Orbits of Comets Halley New Explanations Of Old Phenomena Tides Reflect Moon’s Gravity Not, e.g., Moon Blowing On Ocean Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  69. “The Normal Science of HA Macro” HA Macro is like Galilean (that is, scientific) Astronomy What Does Normal Science Do? Seek New and Better Data To Measure Key Predictions Better and Better Telescopes Test New Propositions (Not Thought Of Before): Parallax seasonal shift of nearby stars’ apparent positions Use Theory To Address Previous Non-Questions Orbits of Comets Halley New Explanations Of Old Phenomena Tides Reflect Moon’s Gravity Not, e.g., Moon Blowing On Ocean Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  70. “The Normal Science of HA Macro” HA Macro is like Galilean (that is, scientific) Astronomy What Does Normal Science Do? Seek New and Better Data To Measure Key Predictions Better and Better Telescopes Test New Propositions (Not Thought Of Before): Parallax seasonal shift of nearby stars’ apparent positions Use Theory To Address Previous Non-Questions Orbits of Comets Halley New Explanations Of Old Phenomena Tides Reflect Moon’s Gravity Not, e.g., Moon Blowing On Ocean Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  71. “The Normal Science of HA Macro” HA Macro is like Galilean (that is, scientific) Astronomy What Does Normal Science Do? Seek New and Better Data To Measure Key Predictions Better and Better Telescopes Test New Propositions (Not Thought Of Before): Parallax seasonal shift of nearby stars’ apparent positions Use Theory To Address Previous Non-Questions Orbits of Comets Halley New Explanations Of Old Phenomena Tides Reflect Moon’s Gravity Not, e.g., Moon Blowing On Ocean Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  72. “The Normal Science of HA Macro” HA Macro is like Galilean (that is, scientific) Astronomy What Does Normal Science Do? Seek New and Better Data To Measure Key Predictions Better and Better Telescopes Test New Propositions (Not Thought Of Before): Parallax seasonal shift of nearby stars’ apparent positions Use Theory To Address Previous Non-Questions Orbits of Comets Halley New Explanations Of Old Phenomena Tides Reflect Moon’s Gravity Not, e.g., Moon Blowing On Ocean Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  73. “The Normal Science of HA Macro” HA Macro is like Galilean (that is, scientific) Astronomy What Does Normal Science Do? Seek New and Better Data To Measure Key Predictions Better and Better Telescopes Test New Propositions (Not Thought Of Before): Parallax seasonal shift of nearby stars’ apparent positions Use Theory To Address Previous Non-Questions Orbits of Comets Halley New Explanations Of Old Phenomena Tides Reflect Moon’s Gravity Not, e.g., Moon Blowing On Ocean Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  74. “The Normal Science of HA Macro” HA Macro is like Galilean (that is, scientific) Astronomy What Does Normal Science Do? Seek New and Better Data To Measure Key Predictions Better and Better Telescopes Test New Propositions (Not Thought Of Before): Parallax seasonal shift of nearby stars’ apparent positions Use Theory To Address Previous Non-Questions Orbits of Comets Halley New Explanations Of Old Phenomena Tides Reflect Moon’s Gravity Not, e.g., Moon Blowing On Ocean Carroll Behavioral-Macro

  75. Recent ‘Scientific’ Triumphs of HA Macro Characteristics: 1. About Questions Central to Core Macroeconomic Questions Fiscal policy, monetary policy, aggregate shocks, dynamics 2. Impossible To Do Using RA DSGE methodology Carroll Behavioral-Macro

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