Subject Choice Presentation entation Secondary condary Sch chool ool Listo towel wel Janua nuary ry 2019 19 Aisling O’ Dwyer Guidance Counsellor
Options after the Leaving Certificate • Work • Year Out • Apprenticeships • Further Education (Post Leaving Certificate courses) • Third Level Education
Continuing your education after the Leaving Certificate. The Options • Post Leaving Certificate Course -1 or 2 years CAO • Level 6 Certificate 2 years • Level 7 Ordinary Degree 3 years • Level 8 Honours Degree 3/4 years
MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR FURTHER EDUCATION Level 8 – Honours Degrees • - 3/4 years study - Min. of 2 H5 and 4 O6/H7 (TCD & a small no. of level 8 courses Min 3 H5 and 3 O6/H7) • Level 7 – Ordinary Degrees -3 years study -Min. 5 O6/H7 • Level 6 – Higher Certificate - 2 years study -Min 5 O6/H7 • Post Leaving Certificate Courses - 1 year study - Min. 5 passes in H/O/F
Choosing Subjects Choosing 5 th year subjects requires R esearch, R eflection and D ecision. Students need to consider the following: Ability/Interests Careers Relevance Keeping options open Seek advice
◦ Choose subjects you have enjoyed to date and that you do well in ◦ Never pick subjects that your friends are doing – be true to yourself and your interests ◦ Subject choice should not depend on what teacher is teaching a certain subject at Leaving Cert Level.
How many subjects? ◦ Students will be required to take 7 subjects . ◦ The results from their best 6 subjects will be totaled to give them a maximum of 625 points. (This includes the 25 bonus points awarded for Honours Maths) ◦ Students are required to take: ◦ Irish ◦ English ◦ Maths ◦ A third Language is strongly recommended….. Why?
Irish ◦ H4 in Irish is required for the following courses: ◦ Primary Teaching ◦ Irish – Early and Modern (TCD) ◦ Home Economics and Irish Second Level Teaching (St. Angela’s) ◦ Commerce and Irish (UCD) ◦ Commerce and Irish (UCC) ◦ Gno agus Cumarsaid (NUIG)
NUI Colleges that have a third language requirement ◦ NUIG ◦ UCC ◦ NUI Maynooth ◦ UCD ◦ Shannon College of Hotel Management ◦ St. Angela’s College Sligo ◦ RCSI (Royal College of Surgeons Ireland)
3 rd Language ◦ There are currently 171 Courses that require a third language. ◦ There are however over 1300 Courses that do not require a third language. ◦ Many of the science, engineering and nursing courses in the NUI Colleges have removed the third language requirement – however it is still a requirement for Medicine and Pharmacy and the Health Sciences such as Occupational Therapy. ◦ If a student has an exemption from a third language e.g. dyslexia and a report then the exemption carries over once the college has been informed. ◦ Advise you to look at the following website to check out in greater detail.
◦ If you want to find out more about the supports provided in college for a student with dyslexia and a third language exemption: ◦ www.accesscollege.ie
No third language requirement: ◦ Entry to TCD, UL or DCU apart from specific courses which may have a language component e.g. Business and Language UL or European Studies UL or Applied Languages UCD. ◦ It is not required for entry to Institutes of Technology or DIT unless it is part of the area of study. ◦ Gardai, Nursing, Apprenticeships. ◦ Most PLC Courses.
Languages (French / German) ◦ H3 in the appropriate language for: ◦ Applied languages, Languages and Computing, Computer Systems and French (UL). ◦ Law and French (UCD) ◦ Commerce with French (NUIG) ◦ Business Studies and Chinese / Japanese (2 languages at H3 – Not English (TCD) ◦ H4 in the appropriate language for: ◦ Business and Languages, Computers, Linguistics and a language, European Studies, Law and French / German, Information and Communication Technology, Languages, Clinical Speech (or Irish) (TCD) ◦ International Business, Computers and Language (IT Carlow)
◦ Languages and Cultural Studies, Business and Languages, Mechanical Engineering and German, Irish Studies, European Studies (UL) ◦ European Studies, Languages and Cultural Studies (or Irish), Law and languages, Commerce (European) with a language (UCC) ◦ Computational linguistics, European Electronic Systems, European Business and French / German / Spanish, International Marketing, Physics and a Language, Chemistry and French / German (DCU) ◦ Commerce International (UCD) ◦ Management, Engineering and a language, Commerce with language (NUIG) ◦ Applied languages (DCU) ◦ European Business and a language (NCI)
◦ Language and Business Dip. Marketing, Media Arts (or Irish), Tourism marketing, Journalism and a language (DIT) ◦ French, German/German and Historical Studies (NUI Maynooth) ◦ Business Studies in Languages and Marketing, Business Studies with French (WIT) ◦ Applied Languages for communication and Administration (IT Tallaght) ◦ Software Development and French / German (CIT).
What 3 to choose from the available 14 subjects?
Subjects French German CHOSEN 4 Chemistry Physics Biology 1. Agricultural Science 2. Accounting Business 3. Home Economics DCG 4. History Geography Art Music
Creative Skills : If you enjoy reading, writing, story telling etc. – English, History. Mathematical Skills – Good at logical thinking, puzzles and numbers – HL Maths, Physics, Accounting. Scientific Skills – Enjoy analysing information and are good at memorising information – Chemistry, Biology, Physics, Agricultural Science, Geography. Practical Skills – Enjoy making things, doing things, knowing how things work – Home Economics, Design & Communication Graphics.
Language Skills – Easily grasp languages and enjoy learning about different cultures – Irish, French, German. Social Skills – Enjoy learning about society past and present and the world around you – History, Home Economics. Business Studies – Enjoy learning about business, money and the economy – Business, Accounting. Artistic Skills – Talented in the arts, enjoy performing and/or using your creativity – Art, Music, Design & Communication Graphics.
Essential Subjects There are some myths about the necessity of having certain subjects for certain careers. Contrary to popular belief:- Engineer / Architect : You do NOT need Technical Drawing Accountant : You do NOT need Business or Accounting
Subject Essential For 170+ Courses require a 3 rd Language (see www.qualifax.ie f or details) French / German • A Science subject is necessary for over 140 courses • 2 Science courses are essential for some courses Chemistry Essential for 7 courses Physics Essential for 1 course Biology Essential for 2 courses Agricultural Science Not Essential Accounting Essential for 1 course Business Not Essential Home Economics Not Essential DCG Not Essential History Not Essential Geography Not Essential Art Essential for 3 courses Music Essential for 1 course Religious Education Not Essential
SCIENCE SUBJECTS ◦ TWO SCIENCE SUBJECTS: ◦ For some science based courses at TCD e.g.Physiotherapy, Pharmacy, Medicine, Dental Science, Science, Human Genetics(in some cases they require Higher Level) ◦ Medicine and Dentistry (H4 in Chemistry and H4 in Physics or Biology) (UCC) ◦ H4 in a Science Subject for: ◦ Medicine, Theoretical Physics (h4 in Physics) (TCD) ◦ Medicine (or Maths), Physiotherapy (RCSI) ◦ Medicine (Physics and/or Chemistry) (UCD) ◦ Medical and Health Science (UCC)
◦ H5 in Chemistry ◦ Veterinary (UCD) ◦ Pharmacy (TCD) ◦ Medicine, Dentistry(UCD) ◦ Human Nutrition and Dietetics, Medical Laboratory Science (DIT) ◦ NO SCIENCE REQUIREMENT ◦ To study any of the science or Engineering Certificates or Diploma courses at the Institutes of Technology or for Arts, Commerce, Business Studies, Social Science, Law etc at Universities ◦ It is not required for most PLC Courses or for most apprenticeships.
For your sixth and seventh subjects it is your chance to choose subjects that you will enjoy studying. You will be required to acquire points to gain entry and to make this possible and achievable choose subjects that you enjoy and that you find interesting.
Final 2/3 subjects….Keep points in mind…..
Leaving Higher Leaving Lower Certificate Paper Certificate Paper Grade Grade H1 (90<100) 100 H2 (80<90) 88 H3 (70<80) 77 H4 (60<70) 66 H5 (50<60) 56 O1 (90<100) 56 H6 (40<50) 46 O2 (80<90) 46 H7 (30<40) 37 O3 (70<80) 37 H8 0 O4 (60<70) 28 O5 (50<60) 20 O6 (40<50) 12 O7 (30<40) 0 O8 0
THE POINTS SYSTEM This is calculated by giving a set number of points for each grade and then adding the six best values to get the total number of points. 7 subjects – Points added from your best 6 Irish O O5 20 English H H4 66 Maths O O4 28 French H H2 88 Geography H H3 77 Home Economics H H2 88 Biology H H2 88 ___ Total Points 435
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