National Centre for Guidance in Education Supporting Outgoing Students (the class of 2020) 1st September 2020 Carol Guildea, Guidance Programme Coordinator for Post Primary (NCGE) David Carroll, Educational Psychologist (NEPS)
Aim of this webinar To support thinking and planning around local and national supports for the class of 2020. To ensure Guidance Counsellors have correct and most up-to-date information for results and CAO offers day 2020.
The role of NCGE: NCGE is an agency of the Department of Education. Our role: Develop, support and influence quality guidance provision in post-primary schools and further education settings as part of lifelong learning, in accordance with national and international best practice.
Note ▪ All information is up to date at the time of presentation / recording of this webinar. ▪ Updates may become available after September 1st... keep up to date by checking in with relevant organisations and websites such as: Department of Education www.education.ie Government of Ireland www.gov.ie CAO www.cao.ie Individual colleges / universities / Its / PLCs / SOLAS etc.
Objectives of this webinar ❑ Provide pertinent information on Leaving Cert results for class of 2020 ❑ Provide pertinent information on possible 'next steps' for students ❑ Provide pertinent information on appeals ❑ Provide information on sitting the exams ❑ Clearly outline all options for the class of 2020 & information on each option ❑ Mention examples of how schools might support students ❑ Outline supports that may be needed ❑ FAQ / Anticipated Questions ❑ Discussion
What can we expect this year? In many ways, we can expect the same range of student and parent reactions. We can expect (and we can plan for): - a cohort of students to be very happy and to continue their journey into the future. - a cohort to adjust their 'first-choice' plans and make 'fall back' plans based on options available to them. - a cohort to be unsure / unaware /upset. - reactions to change between LC results day and CAO offers day. - parents and students to need information and support.
Results Day: 7 th September Possible Student Reactions
CAO Offers Day Round One: 11 th Sep
Key Point - There are many aspects within a students control at the moment.... they have choices! - It is vital they make informed choices. - It is vital they are supported in their decision-making (parents/school/other supports)
Informed Decision Making Correct information and a well-informed supporting adult is key for these students. The supporting Adult may be: - School Guidance Counsellor - Another member of the school team e.g. year head - A parent (with access to correct information from the school) - A representative on the National Parents’ Council helpline - Another Adult (with access to correct information)
What is the role of the school? Provide Provide up to information date Provide on sources of information Support? information on options? and support?
Provide up to date information on options? Provide Support? ❑ Run 'online assembly' for students with information? ❑ Prepare a 'pre-recorded' presentation for students? ❑ Make information available on school website? ❑ Invite students to an 'information room' in school on key days? (Beware of Covid19 restrictions) ❑ School Guidance Counsellor (and/or another member of staff) available on phone on key days?
What is the role of the school? Identify what Identify HOW information / Clarify HOW we will we will provide the support we can communicate the information/ provide to support we offer support students/parents. Whole School Approach
Provide information on sources of information and support? Provide information: - Email all students / parents? - School website? - Hardcopy for those who request it?
Calculated Grades Available from 9am on 7 th September from at the Student Portal on education.ie. ❑ ❑ These grades are OFFERINGS from the Department who are attempting to keep everything as 'on schedule' as possible during the global pandemic. ❑ Grades have been through a rigorous statistical process (similar to what happens every year). ❑ Calculated grades can be used to allow you to progress to any pathway , just like any given year. ❑ Teachers may have given different grades than what is finally offered to students. ❑ If students are not happy with grades, there are several options/choices they can make. ❑ If students choose to sit one or more of the later examinations, the final Leaving Certificate will integrate the higher of the grades . ❑ These grades are provided in time for students who have applied through the CAO and the UK’s UCAS for college entry for the 2020/2021 academic year. ❑ Just like in every year, we do not know on the day of results what the points will be for certain courses. This fact is key for managing student reactions ❑ Information on the process of calculated grades available HERE
Calculated Grades and Student Decision Making
Appealing Calculated Grades ▪ 14th to 17th September (note- this is AFTER the CAO first round of offers) ▪ Appeal via Student Portal on eduation.ie. ▪ Information will be added to the student portal over the coming days/weeks ▪ All aspects of data processing checked (It does not involve a review of the actual data/marks given to students) ▪ If a student is upgraded in line with CAO requirements, they will receive an updated offer ▪ A student may be able to take up the new offer for the year 2020/21 or can start in 2021/22.
CAO Information at cao.ie ❑ Will be available by email/text only I.e. no posted offers. ❑ 11th Sept at 2pm : C.A.O. Round 1 offers ❑ 16th Sept at 3pm: Acceptance of CAO round 1 offers must be returned ❑ 18th Sept: Vacant places published on CAO ❑ 23rd Sept: C.A.O. Round 2 offers ❑ 25th Sept: Acceptance of Round 2 offers ❑ 1st Oct: C.A.O. Round 3 offers ❑ 6th Oct: Acceptance of Round 3 offers ❑ 8th Oct: C.A.O. Round 4 offers ❑ 13th Oct: Acceptance of Round 4 offers ❑ HEAR/DARE information available at accesscollege.ie ❑ Deferral procedures remain the same (consult CAO handbook)
CAO Offers and Student Decision Making
Sitting Exams in November • Information will become available as time progresses • This is an option designed to accommodate students unsatisfied with grades • Students can sit one or all subjects, at their discretion • The higher of the grades will be taken • Start date: November 16th • Evenings and weekends • How to apply to sit the exams? •Written assessment only following the ‘normal’ layout. • Some subjects will include assessment of work submitted prior to school closures • More information will follow on LCVP and LCA. • Impact on CAO: If grades increase, students will be provided with updated CAO offer and start in Autunm 2021. • No impact on fees or student grant.
Some Key Dates 7th Sept: Calculated Grades Available from 9am 11th Sept: C.A.O. Round 1 offers Available from 2pm 14th Sept: Appeal process opens for calculated grades 14 th Sept: Available Place facility will open from 12pm 16th Sept: Acceptance of CAO round 1 offers must be returned by 3pm 17th Sept: Date for close of appeal of grade 23rd Sept: C.A.O. Round 2 offers from 10am 25th Sept: Acceptance of Round 2 offers must be returned by 12pm Late Sept./Early Oct. College registration/start vary depending on college 1st Oct: C.A.O. Round 3 offers from 10am 6th Oct: Acceptance of Round 3 offers must be returned by 3pm 8th Oct: C.A.O. Round 4 offers from 10am 13th Oct: Acceptance of Round 4 offers must be returned by 3pm 16th Nov: Written Leaving Certificate commence
The philosophy irrespective of the situation
Remembering all options ❑ Calculated Grades ❑ Calculated Grades Appeals ❑ Several Rounds of CAO offers ❑ Reapply to CAO in Feb 2021 ❑ 'Vacant places' list ❑ Sit exams in November ❑ Sit exams in June ❑ Apply for PLC ❑ Defer college place ❑ Other options e.g. employment / travel / volunteer (?) ❑ Other options.....
Sources of information / support on Educational/ Career Information and Guidance - Keep an eye on official websites The Helpline is provided courtesy of the (rather than the wider / social media) National Parents’ Council. The Institute of Guidance Counsellors are employed to - education.ie provide qualified guidance counsellors to give advice and support to both students - gov.ie and their parents. The dates and times for the 2020 Helpline are as follows: - CAO.ie Monday 7th September 11am – 8pm - Colleges / University / Institute websites Tuesday 8th September 11am – 8pm Wednesday 9th September 11am – 2pm - NCGE.ie Thursday 10th September 11am – 2pm Friday 11th September 12pm – 8pm - solas.ie Saturday 12th September 11am – 5pm - Adult Educational Guidance Services Freephone: 1800 265 165 : https://www.ncge.ie/ncge/aegi-contact-details
RESOURCE: Information sheet for the class of 2020 and their parents https://www.ncge.ie/resources
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