Why we DON’T want/need an educonf GN3 service Peter Szegedi 19 October 2010 eduCONF Workshop - Lisbon - 18 & 19 October 2010 1
NOTE Conclusions do NOT necessarily reflect the general opinion of the individuals in this group! At least, we tried to come up with reasonable arguments against a potential GN3 service eduCONF Workshop - Lisbon - 18 & 19 October 2010 2
The Method � SWOT analysis Strengths Weaknesses Opportunities Threats eduCONF Workshop - Lisbon - 18 & 19 October 2010 3
The Problem � Challenge: Make it easier, make it work! � Users want to have it now, the easiest way, preferably from desktop, without any specific technical knowledge/details/etc. � Do we need any pan-European level, unified service to solve ”the problem”? � (to be sceptical) NO , we don’t because... eduCONF Workshop - Lisbon - 18 & 19 October 2010 4
The Discussion 1. The basics don’t work � Service providers (NRENs) should solve the technical issues of their national services first! � Not to build in barriers, of course... � Need a ”channel to discuss” , share knowledge/experience , BUT do not need any service activity 2. Sustainability of VC services is the key � Has to be ”self-funded” by NRENs in a long term � Makes it difficult to (temporarily) pull it under GN3 and change the model (if needed) later on eduCONF Workshop - Lisbon - 18 & 19 October 2010 5
The Discussion 3. National VC services’ reputation and branding � NRENs want to promote and sell their own services in the first place � No new service brand should appear on the end- users side 4. Pan-European helpdesk service � Native language, local knowledge, 24/7 – perhaps out-sourced... � Even no common terminology � ”Makes no sense on pan-European level” eduCONF Workshop - Lisbon - 18 & 19 October 2010 6
The Discussion 5. Common booking system � One-to-one contracts are needed between NRENs in order to use each others resources � Easily get over-provisioned set of resources � NRENs do their ” bookings very differently” , hard to keep them up-to-date � ”Not possible to change the world in 6 months” � BTW, just get a booking system from someone eduCONF Workshop - Lisbon - 18 & 19 October 2010 7
The Discussion 6. Phonebook service � Typical workflow: end-user approaches the other end-user and negotiate on the system to be used ( ”end-to-end signalling” ) � Knowing the system and start finding end-users on that system sounds to be artificial � Perhaps not everyone wants to be in ”the directory”, anyway eduCONF Workshop - Lisbon - 18 & 19 October 2010 8
Conclusions � One-to-one contracts (peering) between NRENs � Negotiations on the mutual use of resources � Easier to harmonise things on one-to-one basis than in pan-European level � Users shouldn’t be confused by yet an other brand – NRENs can sell their own service as is (whatever happens in the background) � No way to go against Skype – Is there enough user/demand for high-end telepresence, etc...? eduCONF Workshop - Lisbon - 18 & 19 October 2010 9
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