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Mutually Assured Pwnage (Yes, this slide is meant to be ironic) We believe we're seeing something a little like a cyber Cold War. -- Dmitri Alperovitch, VP Threat Research, McAfee How Cyberwar is like the Cold War Its not a war.


  1. Mutually Assured Pwnage (Yes, this slide is meant to be ironic)

  2. “We believe we're seeing something a little like a cyber Cold War.” -- Dmitri Alperovitch, VP Threat Research, McAfee

  3. How Cyberwar is like the Cold War

  4. It’s not a war.

  5. War? “... a hostile interaction between two or more States , either in a technical or in a material sense. War in the technical sense is a formal status produced by a declaration of war. War in the material sense is generated by actual use of armed force , which must be comprehensive on the part of at least one party to the conflict.”

  6. “a state of conflict between nations that does not involve direct military action but is pursued primarily through economic and political actions, propaganda, acts of espionage or proxy wars waged by surrogates“ The Cold War?

  7. Cyber War? “Rarely has something been so important and so talked about with less clarity and less apparent understanding than this phenomenon” Michael Hayden (frm DIRNSA, frm DCI) Operation Stuxnet

  8. Not an act of war.

  9. Everyone is spying on everyone else.

  10. 1963

  11. “All data is stolen at least twice.” 2013

  12. Sabotage.

  13. 2009 Operation Stuxnet

  14. 1982 Operation Stuxnet

  15. Some people make a lot of money from it.

  16. “In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military– industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists, and will persist...” - Dwight D. Eisenhower, 17 Jan 1961

  17. towards a cyber- military-industrial complex...? “The United States is fighting a cyber-war today, and we are losing”. - John “Mike” McConnell

  18. Little knowledge of actual enemy capacity. (And a lot of hype.)

  19. Danger of escalation.

  20. “The President reserves the right to respond using all necessary means to defend our Nation, our Allies, our partners, and our interests from hostile acts in cyberspace. Hostile acts may include significant cyber attacks directed against the U.S. economy, government or military. As directed by the President, response options may include using cyber and/or kinetic capabilities provided by DoD.”

  21. Confidence building measures are a good idea.

  22. How Cyberwar is not like the Cold War

  23. In the Cold War, people actually died.

  24. We’re not living in a bipolar world anymore.

  25. (I won’ t even try to draw a map of today’ s alliances.)

  26. Non-state actors.

  27. Deterrence won’t work.

  28. Arms control? Forget it.

  29. The good news: There will (probably) be no cyberwar.

  30. The good news: There will (probably) be no cyberwar.

  31. The bad news: No, I don’t mean cyber terrorism.

  32. The bad news:

  33. There will be no war. But in the struggle for peace not a single stone will be left standing.

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